TelSCUM proxy driving me nuts!!! - Just blowing off steam.

willemvdm

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After receiving a not so useful "Your site suck" anonymous message via my web feedback form. I decided to do some changes to my website.

So to my horror I found that when I type in my url I still get my old home page. That would have still been fine, but I found that not all the pages are sitting on the proxy and now it seem as if many of the links on my old site is broken. :mad: So besides not looking so good, (I admit I'm not an experienced web developer and the old site, well did suck :eek: ) it also look very much like an abandent non functioning site.

Any ideas how long it will take for TelSCUM's D.. proxy to fetch the new pages off my site? Any thing I could do to force the proxy to fetch the new pages? I've added expire meta tags and even some code I read about in htaccess to hopefully prevent this from happening in the future. But the pages that Telkom is sitting on, does not contain that code. I always thought that proxy's was suppose to check the date of files with the original server before serving the cached file, EVERY TIME.

When I use www.aalwyne.co.za? then I get the new site. I also thought that this would make the proxy realize that the site has changed, but no. Anything else I could do besides just wait it out?

Could you guys out there with Telkom accounts perhaps check if you get the old site or the new one when you use www.aalwyne.co.za. The new site have a menu listing to the left of the page.

The strange thing is when I type in only aalwyne.co.za then I get the new site right away. But all my pamphlets and stuff has it listed as www.aalwyne.co.za and the average internet user won't stick ?'s all over the place to make sure they get the latest page loaded.

Thanks and sory for the rant, but for the first time I also feel like joining the mob and whack Telkom over the head. :D


PS. I've started making changes to my site at the beginning of last week and the page the proxy deliver is prior to that.
 
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willemvdm

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You would be welcome to take riding lessons with me, but unfortunatly I do not do public outrides. Not enough horses :( , but I could recomend some good places for outrides :) .
 

damian24

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Although I'm distressed to say this... it's not Telkoms' fault.

The proxy is only doing what it's being told to by your website.

you'll need to expire pages on your site for the proxy to force reloading, I generally set this at 24 hours, although I have one page that is cached for 2 years which allows the homepage to 'almost' allways display even if my site is down and allow users to click on a backup site link.

the other option is to use the no-cache directive in your webpages.

In truth though, nowdays one needs to design pages knowing they're gonna be cached somewhere along the line and then account for when refreshes should take palce.

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willemvdm

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Ye, Ye, I know it is still old school. I don't know all these new stuff. But it get the info accross and thats all I need. That is if not cached somewhere.

damian24: You say two years... That mean my site will never come right.:eek:

I've been monitoring my webstats and it seem as if some people get to the right version even though they don't use ?'s and other don't. There are however people from 196.*** IP's that get to the old pages too, so IS also catching pages.

I hope this come right soon. Learned my lesson.

Got to go, got a customer waiting.
 

bwana

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I hope this come right soon. Learned my lesson.
You havent really learned your lesson until you figure out how to prevent it happening in the future. Add the following between your head tags
PHP:
<meta http-equiv="pragma" content="no-cache">
<meta http-equiv="Expires" content="Tue,01 Dec 1990 06:30:00 GMT">
 

oober

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Pity it's so far! I'm actually looking to do some horseriding.

Uh yea, the site is kinda...old school :)
I finished this one this mornign
http://www.rikadeklerk.co.za/

Had to pull an all nighter - the XML killed me :eek:

I hate it when people design there sites with bleeding edge flash and the detection of flash does not work...
"Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash"

I have flash 7 installed. And I can't install 8 because its not out yet, for linux.
 

Brenden_E

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I hate it when people design there sites with bleeding edge flash and the detection of flash does not work...
"Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash"

I have flash 7 installed. And I can't install 8 because its not out yet, for linux.

The detection did work - although I forgot to remove the "alternate content should be placed here" - my bad, it was finished early this morning.

If flash 8 is not out yet for linux, that sucks. But it sucks only for you :)
We have to cater to the majority - and Linux is unfortunately not part of that majority!

*edit* Thanks BTW for pointing it out - you'll now get a proper error message if you try to visit the site again!
 
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willemvdm

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OK, so now www.aalwyne.co.za load my new site, BUT some of the imiges are still the old ones. Is there a way to force imiges not to be cached by Proxy's.

On the one hand one actually want them to be cached, make site load faster, right? Thus is there a way to expire imiges after a sertain time.

I've set the expire META tag to expire Thurs, 5 Oct. Set a reminder and will change expire as I feel necessary. But this don't seem to affect imiges.

Any ideas from the profecianals.
 

bwana

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I've set the expire META tag to expire Thurs, 5 Oct. Set a reminder and will change expire as I feel necessary. But this don't seem to affect imiges.

Any ideas from the profecianals.
You've set it to expire Oct 5 2005 but thats fine - the point of it is to choose a date that has already passed. :)

The images might be cached - make them a couple pixels bigger or smaller so the file size changes a little bit. That should force an update.
 
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