Tesla investor intervenes to avoid Full Self-Driving crash

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Tesla investor tests Full Self-Driving, narrowly avoids crash

Elon Musk said during Tesla's last two earnings calls that investors won’t understand the company unless they use the driver-assistance system marketed as Full Self-Driving (FSD).

William Stein, a Truist Securities analyst with a hold rating on Tesla’s stock, took this as his cue to test-drive one of the carmaker’s vehicles and narrowly avoided a crash.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
lol, when will these car markers realize self driving is a fantasy that will never work in the real world.
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lol, when will these horseless carriage makers realize that dinosaur powered carriages is a fantasy that will never work in the real world.
 
UrBaN963 said:
lol, when will these horseless carriage makers realize that dinosaur powered carriages is a fantasy that will never work in the real world.
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the dinosaur powered carriage only worked because it was the best of what we had available at the time,
EV's simply didn't have the electricity grid that existed back with the dawn of the motor car.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
lol, when will these car markers realize self driving is a fantasy that will never work in the real world.
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Careful, many such predictions caused foot-in-mouth syndrome a few years later. ;)

It will obviously never be perfect as there is no such thing, but will it overtake human drivers' safety record? Definitely.
 
Pass a draconian directive that all cars must have FSD by 2026 and then the problem is solved.
 
Apogee said:
Careful, many such predictions caused foot-in-mouth syndrome a few years later. ;)

It will obviously never be perfect as there is no such thing, but will it overtake human drivers' safety record? Definitely.
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will self driving work in a controlled environment, yes 100% yes
if we made Human controlled driving illegal and all driving was done by robots, will self driving work then, yes.

human beings are unpredictable, emotion driven and obsessed with self harm, and make poor choices for driving,
as we constantly get tired, hungry, drunk, high and distracted,

unfortunately the car has been built around that need, and all the environments catered to it,
we will need to fundamentally change how cars and the built environment functions for self driving to work as it should,

until then, self driving on a tesla is just a neat party trick, that sometimes failed and kills people every so often.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
will self driving work in a controlled environment, yes 100% yes
if we made Human controlled driving illegal and all driving was done by robots, will self driving work then, yes.

human beings are unpredictable, emotion driven and obsessed with self harm, and make poor choices for driving,
as we constantly get tired, hungry, drunk, high and distracted,

unfortunately the car has been built around that need, and all the environments catered to it,
we will need to fundamentally change how cars and the built environment functions for self driving to work as it should,

until then, self driving on a tesla is just a neat party trick, that sometimes failed and kills people every so often.
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Its like that discussion that starts with the assumption that autopilot an work in cars cause it already works in trains and airplanes.

Conveniently leaves out that cars would need to be regulated, designed and supported with similar infrastructure that support self driving trains and planes.
 
Tim_vb said:
Its like that discussion that starts with the assumption that autopilot an work in cars cause it already works in trains and airplanes.

Conveniently leaves out that cars would need to be regulated, designed and supported with similar infrastructure that support self driving trains and planes.
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in many parts of the world they are regulated and heavily enforced, many countries you need to have yearly checks on your car,
and if it fails, either it gets scrapped, or shipped off to Africa where standards arent so stringent.

but my argument is the entire environment where a car operates in, the entire city built around it, with pedestrians and potholes and road markings and traffic lights needs to change,

at best what we can do, is add a single lane or 2 lanes to a freeway and allocate these as self driving, and have a concrete barrier there to prevent traffic driving there that isnt under computer control.
 
Well this is exactly why there is a human operator.
 
Apogee said:
Careful, many such predictions caused foot-in-mouth syndrome a few years later. ;)

It will obviously never be perfect as there is no such thing, but will it overtake human drivers' safety record? Definitely.
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The only place where machines overtake human safety is where the machine is in complete control of every aspect. Machines don't have the intuition to account for uncertainty and unpredictable situations caused by humans and other factors but humans have the intuition to account for the actions of machines.
 
And yet people die on our roads daily. Nobody cares anymore. One self driving vehicle narrowly avoids a collision and we lose our collective minds.
 
Willie Trombone said:
And yet people die on our roads daily. Nobody cares anymore. One self driving vehicle narrowly avoids a collision and we lose our collective minds.
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I'm yet see any research that proves FSD is safer then a human driver but feel free to prove me wrong. The cop out is always when the situation gets too dangerous it send the hospital pass to the unprepared driver. If it was better than a human this would never need to occur
 
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