The 2018 Rugby Championship

rietrot

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Something which I'm also confused about. Aphiwe, in the closing stages of the match, went for the intercept but didn't catch the ball cleanly but he kicked it as it was falling. Did the ball touch the ground before he kicked it? And if it didn't why is it deemed a knock on?
It was knock on and not a kick.
 

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Something which I'm also confused about. Aphiwe, in the closing stages of the match, went for the intercept but didn't catch the ball cleanly but he kicked it as it was falling. Did the ball touch the ground before he kicked it? And if it didn't why is it deemed a knock on?
Because he lost control of the ball before he kicked it.
 

wizardofid

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So out of 200+ international players, being on a short list of 5 for the player of the year award, isn't prestigious? WOW!! Just... WOW!!! That there hasn't been a SA player since considered good enough to make the short list should have been your clue... but apparently not... :ROFL::ROFL::laugh: Sure Malcolm will make it this year though and maybe even Aphiwe too.



It's 2018, 2007 RWC called, they want their leading point scorer back.... :ROFL::ROFL::sleep:
I disagree, so lets leave it at that ;) Getting defensive about isn't good for any one.Comparatively to what players we had before and the rest of the rugby union, he isn't a particularly good fullback, now people are losing their shyte.......:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL::ROFL: Rugby fanatics are just as bad as EFF members, you can't reason with them in a respectful manner their ego's always get in the way....eh.
 

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In all honesty, if we were told that we would beat the ABs in Wellington and lose in the dying seconds at Loftus we would have laughed and joked about it.
Everyone would have taken those results.

I still go back to my previous comment. Imagine we went for a dropkick just before halftime where we could not get through for 2mins while camping on the ABs 22m-line.......Smarter play was needed as was the case with ABs in Wellington.
 

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Something which I'm also confused about. Aphiwe, in the closing stages of the match, went for the intercept but didn't catch the ball cleanly but he kicked it as it was falling. Did the ball touch the ground before he kicked it? And if it didn't why is it deemed a knock on?
Ball went forward
 

smkungfu

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It's 2018 , 2014 called it's wants it's nominee back, there hasn't been a single South African nominee since then.Being a nominee and not winning isn't prestige, even Duane who also got nominated stood a better chance of winning.

When Percy started he scored a try in every test, he was fundamental in the 2007 world cup leading point scorer as well, had better accuracy and 102 caps plus still the leading South African point scorer, compared to Willie who has had 49 test caps and 60 points.Sure, sure...whatever helps you sleep at night, as a benchmark he isn't particularly good.
Game style changed over the years. At one stage in rugby all we did was play a kicking game, so we needed more kickers and accurate ones for that matter.

You cannot compare Willie to Percy based on points scored. Percy was our kicker so obviously he will have more points.

Dude Willie is one of the best fullbacks in world rugby, on a good day that is.;)
 

sand_man

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Doesnt matter, its all about the trophies. The same applies to the Proteas. We tend to balls things up in games you should win, which ultimately costs us the title
The title was never on the line yesterday though. AB had already secured the championship. Besides the Boks have 2 RWC titles and a couple of tri-nation titles under their belts. Proteas have diddly squat!

The main takeaway is that we've been highly competitive in the last 3 outings against the AB's. Winning 1 and being a mere penalty away from winning 3/3. Considering we lost 57-0 this time last year, the turnaround in fortunes can't be ignored. Credit where credit is due.

Game style changed over the years. At one stage in rugby all we did was play a kicking game, so we needed more kickers and accurate ones for that matter.

You cannot compare Willie to Percy based on points scored. Percy was our kicker so obviously he will have more points.

Dude Willie is one of the best fullbacks in world rugby, on a good day that is.;)
Percy was a point scoring machine, no doubt... Doesn't make Willie shyte though. Different players, different eras, different responsibilities within the team dynamique.
 

OrbitalDawn

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That is if he pitches up for the day...
I mean, this applies to literally all players, so... :rolleyes:

Something which I'm also confused about. Aphiwe, in the closing stages of the match, went for the intercept but didn't catch the ball cleanly but he kicked it as it was falling. Did the ball touch the ground before he kicked it? And if it didn't why is it deemed a knock on?
If it's the same one I'm thinking of he was actually lucky not to get yellow for that. Deliberate knock down while the ABs had a 2-0 overlap.
 

sand_man

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There is no excuses for throwing a game away when leading by that margin. People are giving the team way too much slack...
Come on dude? If I had told you at the beginning of the year that we would win one and lose the 2nd in the last minute of the game, you would have told me to layoff the crack.

Ps did you watch the arg/Aus game?
 

theratman

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There is no excuses for throwing a game away when leading by that margin. People are giving the team way too much slack...
I feel we should have won that game and lost the one in NZ. I was so confident of a NZ points comeback I took an inplay bet when they were 2 tries down. Paid bombs but we should've showed more mental discipline after conceding the try that took them within striking range. I don't blame the team totally, its much improved and bodes well for the future. Also NZ are showing kinks in their Armour.
 

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I have been observing this thread, and I am in the same opinion that we over-utililsed our subs in the final 10m. Yes, we may have been exhausted and so was the opposition. There was from my viewpoint a clear shift of focus and pressure after the final substitution 'spree'.

Nonetheless, this game proved that we are still #1 contenders, irrespective of transformation.

For the build-up of the RWC 2019, depth building will be crucial for our way forward, and it is achievable from our developments in the Northern and Southern front.

My only dislike is the recruitment of Sevens players which is as 15-man rugby a specialisation game.

Rassie will be digging deeper into 'continuity'. That is part of being Director of Rugby.

In summary, we are improving. That is a positive.
 
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