The 2019 ICC Cricket World Cup Thread

[AirWolf]

Much better bowling performance from SA, though we couldn't get more wickets.

After Rohit Sharma, the next highest score was Morris's 42. Rohit was the single biggest difference between the two teams as almost everyone else struggled.
A bit better application by our top order could have made a difference.

NZ beat Bangladesh with 2 more balls to spare than India against us. A lot closer games today than one sided thrashings.

We don't have anywhere near a full strength team at the moment, with injuries and imminent retirements. It it what it is. We have to accept that. Throwing around the choker tag is moot as we already know we don't have the team we wish we had to win.

We have to accept the small victories and move on.

 

[Polymathic]

and the moronic selection policy of quotas.

Bringing up quotas in this situation is a straw man argument.

Yes and no, Amla has done so much for you guys in the past, a true legend in SA cricket. So I can somewhat understand why he is selected on experience and skill.

But I do agree it’s time to send him to pasture.

That's exactly the kind of thinking that has got us in this situation. Saw the same thing with Kallis towards the end of his career. CSA always seems to be against giving new players opportunity and stick with the experienced players even if they are not performing on the hope that they might regain form.

 

[rietrot]

The problem here is the batting coach the Proteas have got is not up with the modern standards of the game...and by modern standards I mean the guy can't even develop a Hudson or Cullinan with the players at his disposal.

Nothing to do with "modern" standards. They're not doing the very basics.

 

[Sarg3_ZN]

Bringing up quotas in this situation is a straw man argument.

Fair enough, care to explain Shamsi's selection

 

[rietrot]

Fair enough, care to explain Shamsi's selection

It's more than just that. Political interference has a major impact on the moral in the team. There's already strong compilation for some of the spots, guys not performing like they should and now you have to wonder. Who has the easy ride in, just selected to make up the numbers not necessarily because they are the best.

 

[pinball wizard]

Throwing around the choker tag is moot as we already know we don't have the team we wish we had to win.
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Throwing around that word now is just plain retarded. You have to be in a position of being about to win something to choke. SA was never in that position this game or the other two.

 

[pinball wizard]

I see in the news this morning Morris calling on fans not to lose the faith. I don't think there's enough faith in all the world to propel this squad into the semi-finals at this point.

 

[Polymathic]

Fair enough, care to explain Shamsi's selection

We needed a second spinner on the account that Duminy does want to bowl 10 overs anymore.

It's more than just that. Political interference has a major impact on the moral in the team. There's already strong compilation for some of the spots, guys not performing like they should and now you have to wonder. Who has the easy ride in, just selected to make up the numbers not necessarily because they are the best.

Who are the players in the squad based on their race and not their performance or history?

 

[pinball wizard]

We needed a second spinner on the account that Duminy does want to bowl 10 overs anymore.

Leaving politics out of it, care to explain dumminy's selection?

 

[Cius]

Gonna be an interesting WC. England is looking strong, India is India, WI on their good days are unbeatable, and NZ is steady and solid.

I recon the top 3 will be India, England, and NZ, with the 4th spot being up for grabs between the rest with Aus, or WI being the most likely to grab it currently, still, if Pakistan, SA, or SL jack up their game a bit who knows. Unlikely though for those 3.

In terms of who I vote to win and why:
If India wins, more money into cricket probably but also more dominance of the ICC by India, so I'd prefer them not to win, but in the semi or final is fine for advertising revenue.
England: If they take it it would be great, a long time since England featured much in a WC and the sport is on the decline in England. It's a rich country so getting cricket fever up in England would be awesome as it would balance the money problem the ICC has with India.
Aus: Please no, still don't really like them
SA: Such a long shot, and we don't look like we currently even deserve it, but hey, as a SA supporter we can hope. Would be wonderful. If not them I hope NZ as I like the way they play the sport.
Any other team: May the best team win I guess. A WI win would do a lot for them I suspect and then need some cash injection right now.

 

[Sarg3_ZN]

We needed a second spinner on the account that Duminy does want to bowl 10 overs anymore.

Then why is Duminy in the side? His batting is average at best and he doesn't bowl any more so what is he doing there?

 

[Pegasus]

Then why is Duminy in the side? His batting is average at best and he doesn't bowl any more so what is he doing there?

We need to get 10 to 15 overs from our top 6 batsman, and Duminy can provide 5 to 10. At least he used to.

 

[pinball wizard]

We need to get 10 to 15 overs from our top 6 batsman, and Duminy can provide 5 to 10. At least he used to.

If ever there was a prime example of a has-been it is dumminy. I would rather have milked broke down stain for 5 overs than carry this dead weight.

In fact if I was in charge, I would have left stain and dumminy at home and taken some of the younger franchise players with. Sure they may fail, but look how the old farts turned out, at least start exposing the new players at a younger age instead of waiting till they're about to retire to let them get a taste of international cricket.

 

[Cray]

 

[Polymathic]

Then why is Duminy in the side? His batting is average at best and he doesn't bowl any more so what is he doing there?

That's good question.

 

[Cray]

That's good question.

Always thought Duminy was a marginal selection even at his best, he hasn't been at his best for years now...

 

[WaxLyrical]

The gamble on Amla backfired horribly. He has half a leg into retirement.
Reeza would've been a better option to groom him for the next cup.

 

[thestaggy]

I see in the news this morning Morris calling on fans not to lose the faith. I don't think there's enough faith in all the world to propel this squad into the semi-finals at this point.

Meh, I wasn't expecting anything from them heading in to the World Cup. I'm not even shocked by the defeats to England and India.

Only things that have shocked me thus far was the Bangladesh loss and the spinelessness against England. Expected better efforts.

 

[thestaggy]

The gamble on Amla backfired horribly. He has half a leg into retirement.
Reeza would've been a better option to groom him for the next cup.

Agreed. We weren't favourites heading in to this, so rather take a young, experimental team over.

I'd gladly watch a developmental team lose 3-games in a row if they were all trying than watch old dudes waste our time.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

We cant lose get to the Semi's that much is clear. So now i want the poms to win, would be great for cricket.