The Absurd Reason Why America Circumcises Baby Boys

Ockie

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Or, could you imagine someone suggesting baby girls should somehow be mutilated (yes I will use the word since I have a penis) so that they can be more appealing and pleasure men better as adults? Just another example of how we live in a society that bemoans the mistreatment of women in primitive cultures while condoning and even praising the mistreatment of boys and men.

I have my mom to thank for my intact penis - she wouldn't let it happen

Good for her .... and even better for you! :D
 

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Not to be crude or rude, but if a woman thinks and tells a guy that she does not like his dick because it is natural and uncut, then he should be able to tell her that her tits are too small and her thighs too big. Or maybe she should have a piece of her vagina cut off, just a little piece, and see how she likes it. But hey, that is just me and my opinion. Luckily I am not the one that gets dictated to by a chick to have a piece of my dick cut off. While you are at it, why don't you just let her cut your balls off too.

@cracker. This post is not aimed at you. I am just quoting your post as it links to the other post with the idea that men should have their dicks mutilated because chicks dig it. :rolleyes:


Agreed.
 

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mu·ti·late


verb (used with object), mu·ti·lat·ed, mu·ti·lat·ing.
1.
to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts

Did we injure our son? Yes you did
Did we disfigure our son? Yes you did
Did we make his penis imperfect? Was it not perfect already?
Did we irrepareably damage his penis? Yes you did, since he can never repair it.

Why was it so important that you make that choice for him? What would be wrong with letting him decide whether he wants to do it when he gets older?

You deprived him of the choice over his own body, for a surgery that is not medically necessary and results in lower sensitivity and a worse sex life. For appearances sake. Why?
 

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Why are all of those answered as no? Because it was done in the name of religion?


Yes, it was done in the name of religion but we have not harmed him in any way - he is going to go on and have a good sexual life with or without a foreskin. Look at it from my side........I am what you can call mutilated - and I can answer "yes" to all of those. What future do I have with my mutilation????? What man would want me???? He is not going to have any of those problems, is he?????
 

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Any honest person would answer yes to those.

Or maybe she fully believes it, and therefore technically she is honest, or believes she is at least. Many people will reason that because it is done in the name of religion it is the right thing. Does not make it so though.
 

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Why was it so important that you make that choice for him? What would be wrong with letting him decide whether he wants to do it when he gets older?

You deprived him of the choice over his own body, for a surgery that is not medically necessary and results in lower sensitivity and a worse sex life. For appearances sake. Why?

It was done for religious purposes - there wasn't surgery and he is NOT going to know the difference between sex with a foreskin or without!
 

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i had my penis "mutilated" when i was a baby - apparently in the 80s it was done for health reasons.

i don't mind it: my penis is extremely clean, i can still orgasm, **** and bang anybody i want. if you think it lowers sensitivity you're wrong :D i used to go from having blitzkrieg orgasms to the point where i am today

it is not as bad as many people make it out to be in my opinion, but i haven't had my son circumcised and i shouldn't need to in the future.
 

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i had my penis "mutilated" when i was a baby - apparently in the 80s it was done for health reasons.

i don't mind it: my penis is extremely clean, i can still orgasm, **** and bang anybody i want. if you think it lowers sensitivity you're wrong :D i used to go from having blitzkrieg orgasms to the point where i am today

it is not as bad as many people make it out to be in my opinion, but i haven't had my son circumcised and i shouldn't need to in the future.


Pics or you have a 3 inch foreskin.
 

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Yes, it was done in the name of religion but we have not harmed him in any way - he is going to go on and have a good sexual life with or without a foreskin. Look at it from my side........I am what you can call mutilated - and I can answer "yes" to all of those. What future do I have with my mutilation????? What man would want me???? He is not going to have any of those problems, is he?????

mrs antman. My heart breaks for you. I really does. Having lost my grandfather last year to cancer and seeing what it does to the human body broke my heart in pieces. I did not recognize him. And make no mistake, what happened to you and your breasts is a terrible thing that I wish on no woman as I can just imagine how important it is to woman feeling feminine. But what you must also remember is it was done to save, or at least extend your life. It was medically required.
 

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It was done for religious purposes - there wasn't surgery and he is NOT going to know the difference between sex with a foreskin or without!

Because you didn't give him the choice.

Did God make him perfect or did you have to perfect him yourself?
 

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Yes, it was done in the name of religion but we have not harmed him in any way...

Love it how people justify things.

My daughters labia minora are way to long and her clitoral hood also overhangs too much. The wife and I have decided that labia & clitoral hood reduction would be good surgeries for her to have. It will be cleaner, less smegma and just easier too manage (ask any urologist/gynae and they will confirm women have more smega, uti's and other issues). This will have no impact on her sex life and would probably increase her sensitivity due to the clitoral hood reduction.

Did we injure our daughter? No
Did we disfigure our daughter? No
Did we make her vagina imperfect? No
Did we irrepareably damage her vagina? No

Don't tell me this is mutilation because she is a girl. These procedures are not illegal and many adult women elect to have these procedures done so therefore it cannot be mutilation.

Any comments?
 

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mu·ti·late


verb (used with object), mu·ti·lat·ed, mu·ti·lat·ing.
1.
to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts

Did we injure our son? No.
Did we disfigure our son? No.
Did we make his penis imperfect? No.
Did we irrepareably damage his penis? No.

This type of bull**** grates me so deeply. Of ****ing course you mutilated your son - it absolutely fits the very bloody definition you gave. That you did it for religious reasons does absolutely nothing to change that. Yes, you injured him; yes you disfigured a part of him by irreparably damaging it. Is this somehow news to you?
 

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I can't argue with all you males who always think they are correct. What do you want me to say? Yes, we mutilated him, yes, we injured him and, no, he will never have a fulfilling sex life. There....happy now? What's done is done and he won't know any better ever. I'm obviously a crap mother!
 

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I can't argue with all you males who always think they are correct. What do you want me to say? Yes, we mutilated him, yes, we injured him and, no, he will never have a fulfilling sex life. There....happy now? What's done is done and he won't know any better ever. I'm obviously a crap mother!

Don't get defensive here.

Unfortunately you are just part of the system that perpetuates it. You continue to advocate for circumcision, but you really don't have a good reason for it. You did it because other people said you should and because you would be ostracized in your community if you didn't. Is that a good reason for surgery? For completely unnecessary surgery?

Hygiene? Take a bath and wash under the foreskin. You shower/bath every day, don't you?
HIV? Use a condom, twice as good protection. In fact, probably better than twice as good.
Feeling? Better to be uncut - more sensitive.
Appearance? Sure, as long as your partner agrees to a labia nip and tuck.

Really still feel strongly about it? Okay, allow your son to make the choice when he grows up.
 

Ockie

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I can't argue with all you males who always think they are correct. What do you want me to say? Yes, we mutilated him, yes, we injured him and, no, he will never have a fulfilling sex life. There....happy now? What's done is done and he won't know any better ever. I'm obviously a crap mother!

No one said that. Dont put words in our mouths. We are debating with you and trying for you to see a new perspective. Yes, you cut your boy, yes it was done in the name of religion, yes, you thought it was the right thing to do and still do. Does that make it right? No. Does that mean that you cant ever change your mind about whether cutting a baby's penis is right or wrong. No.
 

HapticSimian

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I can't argue with all you males who always think they are correct. What do you want me to say? Yes, we mutilated him, yes, we injured him and, no, he will never have a fulfilling sex life. There....happy now? What's done is done and he won't know any better ever. I'm obviously a crap mother!

Yes, you did, sadly... but it does not follow that you are a crap mother, or that his love life won't be fulfilling. However, people in your situation need to make peace with the reality that what you had done was a distinctly unnecessary, harmful act, deemed acceptable by society only because of its ties to religion and culture. 'Religious reasons' should not and cannot be a catch-all justification.
 
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