The backfiring of the EFF’s attempt to rain on the Boks’ – and SA’s – parade

[Nicodeamus]

they are politicians, like them all, they play the game ... as it feeds well and strokes all the right vices

There are categories of politicians and many are a mix of personalities. You get the general politician that is just an opportunist out there to enrich himself. I would put Malema, and most of the ANC in that category.

Then you get the ones that are pragmatics, Zille, Mbeki, Ramaphosa etc would fall here. They play the game, but have got some kind of good principles behind them and you can see that at least that try to stick to them during negotiations.

Then you get the dedicated ideologues, like Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Mao etc. They are generally honest, competent and in my view dangerous.

Ndlozi falls into this category. He means what he says and speaks from the depth of his heart with each statement. I tried reading his PHD to understand him, the guy would dedicate himself to bring down anything that has anything to do with a white person in SA. He bases his ideology onto Nietzsche, Hegel, Foucault, Fannon etc. These are all intellectual thinkers that had a vision in resentment. They were also all fundamentally unsatisfied people.

The guy also has serious daddy issues

We moved to a conversation about my being a faithful Christian, who is always at church. In a very sarcastic tone, he rhetorically asked why I attend church so much. In a firm, but not overly excited, tone I replied that it was because God was the only father I knew. This, I suspect, accelerated the end of the conversation. In less than ten minutes our meeting ended, on the street corner, next to his car. I walked back home as he drove off

or this

When I turned eleven, my mother sat me down to explain that my father had deserted me. I remember that evening in Evaton, the township where I grew up, when she came to explain to me. She sat down and, by candle light, she began to narrate the story. She told me that when she fell pregnant with me, my grandmother and her brothers went to my father’s family home to present the matter of the pregnancy. Upon their arrival, they were rejected and told never to come back again. I never thought about what age my mom was until I had to interrogate this past in 1996; she was 30 years old, and I was 11. In 1984 when she conceived me she was only 18. My grandmother never forgets the rage of my father’s mother and how harsh she was to my family delegation. She tells me “they never even allowed us into the yard”. In humiliation, they came back home and that was the end of it. I came to know this story when I was 11 years old. I grew up to accept that I do not have a father, like many in the townships. Nevertheless, I am older now, and this is a struggle that I can choose not to get into, a burden I can choose not to carry.

My view is that the EFF is a product of an absent father black generation.

 

[Ams1979]

There are categories of politicians and many are a mix of personalities. You get the general politician that is just an opportunist out there to enrich himself. I would put Malema, and most of the ANC in that category.

Then you get the ones that are pragmatics, Zille, Mbeki, Ramaphosa etc would fall here. They play the game, but have got some kind of good principles behind them and you can see that at least that try to stick to them during negotiations.

Then you get the dedicated ideologues, like Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Mao etc. They are generally honest, competent and in my view dangerous.

Ndlozi falls into this category. He means what he says and speaks from the depth of his heart with each statement. I tried reading his PHD to understand him, the guy would dedicate himself to bring down anything that has anything to do with a white person in SA. He bases his ideology onto Nietzsche, Hegel, Foucault, Fannon etc. These are all intellectual thinkers that had a vision in resentment. They were also all fundamentally unsatisfied people.

The guy also has serious daddy issues

I must admit the last part of the daddy issues is something I am generally dealing with these days in my work arena. I have to act as a "father" in addition to being a manager to my new younger staff as they seem to have not had a male role model in their life and it is coming through in the reckless decisions being made. I reckon a lot of youngsters fall in this area, hence the appeal to the EFF as they are some sort of role model for them.

 

[Nicodeamus]

I must admit the last part of the daddy issues is something I am generally dealing with these days in my work arena. I have to act as a "father" in addition to being a manager to my new younger staff as they seem to have not had a male role model in their life and it is coming through in the reckless decisions being made. I reckon a lot of youngsters fall in this area, hence the appeal to the EFF as they are some sort of role model for them.

A lot of people do blame Apartheid for almost everything nowadays, but the one critique that the system cannot escape from was that the migrant labour system destroyed the black family.

 

[surface]

A lot of people do blame Apartheid for almost everything nowadays, but the one critique that the system cannot escape from was that the migrant labour system destroyed the black family.

This is creative. I applaud.

 

[yebocan]

There are categories of politicians and many are a mix of personalities. You get the general politician that is just an opportunist out there to enrich himself. I would put Malema, and most of the ANC in that category.

Then you get the ones that are pragmatics, Zille, Mbeki, Ramaphosa etc would fall here. They play the game, but have got some kind of good principles behind them and you can see that at least that try to stick to them during negotiations.

Then you get the dedicated ideologues, like Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Mao etc. They are generally honest, competent and in my view dangerous.

Ndlozi falls into this category. He means what he says and speaks from the depth of his heart with each statement. I tried reading his PHD to understand him, the guy would dedicate himself to bring down anything that has anything to do with a white person in SA.

I always paint politicians with the same brush, granted ... tolerate some more than anothers. Politicians play to a particular audience, bond to a set constituency .... so, all that they do is crafted/orchestrated/a set piece for the their audience. Granted, there are plenty of good people that are politicians, one just has to look at old Swarts from Cope, but patriots are what is needed as the septic pool that is our political landscape changes even the best intentioned among us, now add the worst of us into the mix...
Siya and Rassie , not bounded to a constituency...spoke from the heart, made authentic connection with the rest of us, their fellow South Africans, their message resonated across the country.. because the majority of us feel exactly the same..patriots in my eyes.
Just as you are trying to understand Ndlozi, btw, good luck with that one.... you are right, tons of hate in the Dr, He nor his party are true ideologues, if it they were - gone would have been anything and everything that is Western..., they enjoy their adventure in cupidity way too much..life without Louis V, Gucci, - would be just too hard. On my part, I am trying to wrap my mind around what has happened to Zille..and you are right , a good dose of pragmatism plays a large part in her reinvention, but a political being through and through she and all the rest are.

 

[Splinter]

That Roman senators used the Gladiatorial Games to distract the population form the corruption in the empire. The sports might have changed, but the strategy is as as old as human kind.

The 1995 World Cup did a great job of helping the country move forward in relative peace.

 

[Nicodeamus]

The 1995 World Cup did a great job of helping the country move forward in relative peace.

That is because Sport speaks to a collective honors. It also played an important part after the Boston Bombers to calm the city. Honor is an important value for most people.

 

[Splinter]

That is because Sport speaks to a collective honors. It also played an important part after the Boston Bombers to calm the city. Honor is an important value for most people.

Oh, so it has some good qualities then. You seemed to be dismissive.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Oh, so it has some good qualities then. You seemed to be dismissive.

It can be useful, but it also opens up the window for abuse. Imagine if Mandela decided to kill everyone after the 95 World cup. Honor works as long as it goes along with Trust.

I am personally not a big group person and don't associate to easily with a group - it is very anti evolutionary.

 

[Splinter]

It can be useful, but it also opens up the window for abuse. Imagine if Mandela decided to kill everyone after the 95 World cup. Honor works as long as it goes along with Trust.

I am personally not a big group person and don't associate to easily with a group - it is very anti evolutionary.

Yes, it's not hard to see you fancy yourself as some sort of social outlier.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Yes, it's not hard to see you fancy yourself as some sort of social outlier.

I have never thought of myself as that special. I have my own silly habits, for example I threw my hair around at Rock Festivals while at University.

 

[Splinter]

I have never thought of myself as that special. I have my own silly habits, for example I threw my hair around at Rock Festivals while at University.

Yes, that's a silly habit of lots of silly humans...ergo you felt some sort of kinship with the rest of smelly humanity, no doubt.

 

[Nicodeamus]

Yes, that's a silly habit of lots of silly humans...ergo you felt some sort of kinship with the rest of smelly humanity, no doubt.

I was high, so I do have an excuse.

 

[Splinter]

I was high, so I do have an excuse.

Of course. What esoteric narcotic were you using?

 

[Nicodeamus]

Of course. What esoteric narcotic were you using?

I don't remember everything correctly, but the white stuff looked like Sugar.

 

[Splinter]

I don't remember everything correctly, but the white stuff looked like Sugar.

That's odd. My understanding is that your memory only goes wack after you take the drugs.

 

[TysonRoux]

LOL

EFF questions Parliament celebrating 'lily-white' Bok RWC victory

The Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) has again criticised the Springboks and the wave of positivity following their Rugby World Cup triumph.

ewn.co.za

 

[thestaggy]

LOL

EFF questions Parliament celebrating 'lily-white' Bok RWC victory

The Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) has again criticised the Springboks and the wave of positivity following their Rugby World Cup triumph.

ewn.co.za

Division and hate, only way they can and will stay relevant.

 

[Ponderer]

The tactics of the EFF comes straight from the communist playbook.
They claim to have the interest of the broader public at heart.
However.
The truth of it is that they are a greedy bunch that only care for themselves.

A communist leader is nothing other than a wanna-be capitalist.
How can the EFF (Economic Freedom Fighters) claim they are fighting for economic freedom if their policy is exactly the opposite.
The EFF is quite obviously a bunch/band/group (of f*cking communists) that are fighting to grab everything for themselves.

 

[BBSA]

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