The big cost of obesity in South Africa

[wingnut771]

Very simple, the amount of VAT you pay on the meal is dependant on which set of bars you fit through.

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midgets tax free?

 

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The big cost of obesity in South Africa

Globally, it is widely acknowledged that obesity-related conditions and their complications add hugely to healthcare costs and productivity losses. In turn this adds a large burden on individuals, their families and on governments.

One estimate suggests that of the total health expenditure on the continent, 9% is attributed to dealing with people who are overweight and obese.

[Bloomberg]

In current woke crazy world, trying to talk honestly and factually about this, results in being call fat phobic.

 

[ShaunSA]

size 36 is fat now? Goes off to run ..

It is. I suggest you run long and hard

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Been wondering what the ZA numbers are. And this research does not even consider all the costs (loss of productivity, for example).

For sure, if the current global obesity pandemic continues, it will literally bankrupt nations. Sad thing is we know exactly what is driving this and how to fix it. Unfortunately fixing it will require regulatory intervention and no politician is going to go there.

Correct. The problem is SA's Low Fat, High Carb, High Sugar (LFHCHS) diet and processed foods. Pushed and promoted by corporates because of the low production costs and high profit margins. Easy to identify in supermarkets and even "health" aisles of pharmacies and other places. Almost anything in a box, bottle and packet.

The poor cannot afford to eat a balanced High Fat, Low Carb, No sugar (HFLCNS) diet. By no sugar, it means added sugar. We get enough natural sugar in fruit and other foods. The HFLCNS diet costs more though and a pensioner on a state pension of R1890 per month and supporting unemployed members of the family cannot afford anything but the LFHCHS diet. This results in a body shape I call the "Carbsbody" - Large thighs, large upper arms, rounded or absent neck and a large belly with fatty liver and visceral fat around the heart and organs. Armpits have become non existant.

South Africans are eating themselves to death.

It takes training to read a food label in SA. A traffic light system as per the UK should be adopted.

 

[wingnut771]

Correct. The problem is SA's Low Fat, High Carb, High Sugar (LFHCHS) diet and processed foods. Pushed and promoted by corporates because of the low production costs and high profit margins. Easy to identify in supermarkets and even "health" aisles of pharmacies and other places. Almost anything in a box, bottle and packet.

The poor cannot afford to eat a balanced High Fat, Low Carb, No sugar (HFLCNS) diet. By no sugar, it means added sugar. We get enough natural sugar in fruit and other foods. The HFLCNS diet costs more though and a pensioner on a state pension of R1890 per month and supporting unemployed members of the family cannot afford anything but the LFHCHS diet. This results in a body shape I call the "Carbsbody" - Large thighs, large upper arms, rounded or absent neck and a large belly with fatty liver and visceral fat around the heart and organs. Armpits have become non existant.

South Africans are eating themselves to death.

It takes training to read a food label in SA. A traffic light system as per the UK should be adopted.

That was half the reason I gave up, was so expensive doing the high fat low carb diet, the other half was I kept busting him buying pies/samoosas and chocolates when he went shopping.

Try cutting out just wheat and see how the price goes up when you now have to use almond flour.

 

[KleinBoontjie]

Correct. The problem is SA's Low Fat, High Carb, High Sugar (LFHCHS) diet and processed foods. Pushed and promoted by corporates because of the low production costs and high profit margins. Easy to identify in supermarkets and even "health" aisles of pharmacies and other places. Almost anything in a box, bottle and packet.

The poor cannot afford to eat a balanced High Fat, Low Carb, No sugar (HFLCNS) diet. By no sugar, it means added sugar. We get enough natural sugar in fruit and other foods. The HFLCNS diet costs more though and a pensioner on a state pension of R1890 per month and supporting unemployed members of the family cannot afford anything but the LFHCHS diet. This results in a body shape I call the "Carbsbody" - Large thighs, large upper arms, rounded or absent neck and a large belly with fatty liver and visceral fat around the heart and organs. Armpits have become non existant.

South Africans are eating themselves to death.

It takes training to read a food label in SA. A traffic light system as per the UK should be adopted.

Even if they argue that the poor is unable to afford low carb diets, there is still so much other options. Like intermittent fasting, that can produce the same results.
You are correct, people are eating themselves to death. At my company, employees get a free meal, every day. People don't understand why I don't care to eat there, every day or that I take a small portion if I eat there.. "It's free" doesn't mean you must stuff your face.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

The big cost of obesity in South Africa

Globally, it is widely acknowledged that obesity-related conditions and their complications add hugely to healthcare costs and productivity losses. In turn this adds a large burden on individuals, their families and on governments.

One estimate suggests that of the total health expenditure on the continent, 9% is attributed to dealing with people who are overweight and obese.

[Bloomberg]

We are talking about the anc-o-beasts? right? Their cost on our country has been devastating and one can probably compare itself to a war-torn one at that.

 

[BBSA]

That was half the reason I gave up, was so expensive doing the high fat low carb diet, the other half was I kept busting him buying pies/samoosas and chocolates when he went shopping.

Try cutting out just wheat and see how the price goes up when you now have to use almond flour.

You definitely don't need to use almond flour.

Bacon, eggs and liver is not that expensive.

 

[Corelli]

Tax sugar more

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Even if they argue that the poor is unable to afford low carb diets, there is still so much other options. Like intermittent fasting, that can produce the same results.
You are correct, people are eating themselves to death. At my company, employees get a free meal, every day. People don't understand why I don't care to eat there, every day or that I take a small portion if I eat there.. "It's free" doesn't mean you must stuff your face.

Correct. Yet I need to mention that almost half South Africans are unemployed and almost half are on SASSA grants. Therefore intermittent fasting is a way of life for most already. And when they get money it's spent on cheap Low Fat, High Carb High Sugar products to make it go further.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

You definitely don't need to use almond flour.

Bacon, eggs and liver is not that expensive.

Yes, but how do you make a cheese and avocado (Both healthy) sandwich with bacon, eggs and liver? And most South Africans would consider bacon, eggs and liver a luxury meal. I dare you to buy just food for yourself on pensioners R1890 per month. Don't consider clothing, transport, electricity and water like they have to for your exercise.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Tax sugar more

What will that help? It's already taxed but only about 1% of the tax from it goes to sugar education. The government just gets a bigger revenue stream.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

That was half the reason I gave up,

Try cutting out just wheat and see how the price goes up when you now have to use almond flour.

Exactly. Wheat flour is high carb and is metabolised into sugar in the liver. A single slice of bread will spike insulin levels. A healthy pancreas deals with this easily but a type 2 diabetic can't. To lose weight, wheat bread needs to be avoided. Making a loaf of bread with almond flour to avoid the weight adding carbs costs about R80 a loaf.

 

[wingnut771]

You definitely don't need to use almond flour.

Bacon, eggs and liver is not that expensive.

He wanted his toast in the morning. Set in his ways.

 

[Pak Fa Fui]

Nothing wrong with fat people, we are also human

 

[wingnut771]

Exactly. Wheat flour is high carb and is metabolised into sugar in the liver. A single slice of bread will spike insulin levels. A healthy pancreas deals with this easily but a type 2 diabetic can't. To lose weight, wheat bread needs to be avoided. Making a loaf of bread with almond flour to avoid the weight adding carbs costs about R80 a loaf.

Never mind the baby marrow noodles now that pasta is out or cauliflower rice because normal rice is out.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

At my company, employees get a free meal, every day. People don't understand why I don't care to eat there, every day or that I take a small portion if I eat there.. "It's free" doesn't mean you must stuff your face.

That's part of the African culture. It lives for today and doesn't worry about tomorrow. In a nomadic pastoralist subsistence farming cultural mindset, the food has to be eaten before it goes rotten and the next day's meal is worried about the next day. There is no planning for tomorrow.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Nothing wrong with fat people, we are also human

Correct, but fat humans and prone to health risks.

 

[joker08]

Correct. The problem is SA's Low Fat, High Carb, High Sugar (LFHCHS) diet and processed foods. Pushed and promoted by corporates because of the low production costs and high profit margins. Easy to identify in supermarkets and even "health" aisles of pharmacies and other places. Almost anything in a box, bottle and packet.

The poor cannot afford to eat a balanced High Fat, Low Carb, No sugar (HFLCNS) diet. By no sugar, it means added sugar. We get enough natural sugar in fruit and other foods. The HFLCNS diet costs more though and a pensioner on a state pension of R1890 per month and supporting unemployed members of the family cannot afford anything but the LFHCHS diet. This results in a body shape I call the "Carbsbody" - Large thighs, large upper arms, rounded or absent neck and a large belly with fatty liver and visceral fat around the heart and organs. Armpits have become non existant.

South Africans are eating themselves to death.

It takes training to read a food label in SA. A traffic light system as per the UK should be adopted.

So no protein ?

 

[borro]