The colonialists brought crime from Europe to Africa - Baleka Mbete

saturnz

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Constant war is pretty much the whole of African history, they just can't figure out how to not do it. The colonial era was the only thing that forced relative peace.

The US government has pretty much been at war since it was created, did the Africans create the US government?
 

rambo919

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The US government has pretty much been at war since it was created, did the Africans create the US government?
Apples and Oranges, you are comparing war with constant useless war over nothing important. Not that the americans are totally innocent, even though most of the wars were defensive there were a few of opportunism.

The people referred to as "native americans" for most of their history also was a set of barbarians constantly fighting over nothing important.... the "noble savage" myth was never true for anyone even the whites when they were still barbarians. Which raises an interesting question for the fools that think religion causes the most wars..... were these barbarians (or the african ones) fighting all the time because of differing religions or did they just like fighting too much?
 

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Does nobody else find Baleka's exhibition extremely depressing?

I didnt vote anc but they are ruling the country, this is how arrogantly stupid they are actually.

SIGH
 

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I thought about it I think the more frightening thing is she is not stupid she knows exactly what she is doing and that is far more frightening than a dumb person with power.
 

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I thought about it I think the more frightening thing is she is not stupid she knows exactly what she is doing and that is far more frightening than a dumb person with power.
Arnt conspiracy theories for stupid people?
 

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so who introduced the concept of concentration camps in Africa?
The GERMANS :

There were many atrocities committed in the 20th century, some well remembered and many long forgotten. Etched into all our minds is the Nazi holocaust; with six million liquidated in a matter of years, it was an unprecedented act of violence.


The horrendous magnitude makes it difficult to even comprehend. But however deranged the men were who designed and perpetrated those events, they did not exist in a vacuum. The ideas that culminated in the Nazi ideology can all be traced from the past.

'The Kaiser's Holocaust' by David Olusoga and Casper W Erichsen argues that the main starting point for many of these dark ideas were colonial Namibia.

The authors, weave together a long historical account of Namibia's colonial past under German rule, and the implications of their evil practices.

Beginning with Portugal's empty 'invasion' of Namibia in the 15th century, the authors explain the long and troubling story of the German colonial invasion, domination and genocide.

They claim, with credible support, that many aspects of these events directly influenced the Nazi ideology that began forming in a broken Germany after World War I.

Surprisingly easy to read, the book is impeccably researched and references hundreds of background texts and documents. But what sets this apart from other colonial texts is the insightful analysis beyond Africa.

The clinical genocide of the Nama and Herero peoples did not end at Namibia's borders, it had profound effects that heavily influenced world history.

Most of the connections made between Germany's colonial past and the Nazi holocaust are highly credible. They point to the industrialisation of death, which can be traced back to Shark Island's concentration camp and the Swakopmund railroad.

They also spotlight the pseudo-scientist Eugen Fischer. As the father of Eugenics, Fishcer started his career researching the Baster tribe in colonial Namibia. His influential books written about the tribe argued for racial purity and cleansing, ideas that were directly incorporated under Nazi rule.

The bloody dots this book connects are important because they have been largely ignored elsewhere. Namibia's colonial history is not well known outside the country, and this book goes some way towards changing that.

– 'The Kaiser's Holocaust' is available online at Amazon.com

'The Kaiser's Holocaust– Germany's Forgotten Genocide And The Colonial Roots Of Nazism'

AMAZON - The Kaiser's Holocaust: Germany's Forgotten Genocide and the Colonial Roots of Nazism
 

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@saturnz
I would like to clarify something.
Do you agree with what Baleka said - that colonialists brought crime from Europe to Africa - that the crime in South Africa is because of "whites".
I await your response.
 

saturnz

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@saturnz
I would like to clarify something.
Do you agree with what Baleka said - that colonialists brought crime from Europe to Africa - that the crime in South Africa is because of "whites".
I await your response.

remember when I asked you questions, and you said make your point, well now the ball is in your court
 

grok

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She says the colonizers brought crime & that's why they are corrupt. The colonizers also brought civilization, law & order & capitalism, so why did they latch onto the crime only and not onto the rest?
 

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shouldn't you be working for your employer paying you income taxes dutifully like a good citizen that you are

You better be careful - you have divulged a lot of information about yourself here, and should you be reported to SARS for tax evasion don't come crying foul...
 

saturnz

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You better be careful - you have divulged a lot of information about yourself here, and should you be reported to SARS for tax evasion don't come crying foul...

tax avoidance is perfectly legal, but you ofcourse do not know that
 
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