The DA is in total crisis.

Do the DA need a new leader?

  • Yes

    Votes: 101 81.5%
  • No

    Votes: 23 18.5%

  • Total voters
    124

thechamp

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Yes, a legend for people like you who supports race-based policies. Many people doesn't support that, which is very clear from recent by-elections.

You are blind if you can't see the decline in the DA support.
The same people who voted for the ANC to take wards from the DA according to the latest by election results or is it those who voted for a non racial Freedom Front who brought Peter Marais in to try win them the Coloured vote?

Or was it not the Coloured vote but the Afrikaaners vote they were after and Marais being a coloured was just a wonderful coincidence?
 

ForceFate

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Yes, a legend for people like you who supports race-based policies. Many people doesn't support that, which is very clear from recent by-elections.

You are blind if you can't see the decline in the DA support.
Maybe it's the only way they'll achieve a meaningful growth in future.
 

thechamp

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Maybe it's the only way they'll achieve a meaningful growth in future.
A lecture of mine who also happen to moonlight as a Pastor once told me that a way to make money and be rich is very illogical, that's why too many people would remain poor. He said you must give away money to have money, give and give until you have nothing to give, then sit back and be embarrassed as the good Lord showers you with his blessings.

I see the DA also shares the same mentality, lose votes to gain votes.
 

Jopie Fourie

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So who do you vote for then?
Why would this make any difference? Whether I vote ANC, FF+, Good, whatever, it does not mean I want Apartheid back. My vote could purely be based on the fact that I want a party that represents me. Does not mean I want Apartheid back. This is a common tactic used by the ANC and DA. If you do not vote for them you are racist and want Apartheid back.
 

LazyLion

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Why would this make any difference? Whether I vote ANC, FF+, Good, whatever, it does not mean I want Apartheid back. My vote could purely be based on the fact that I want a party that represents me. Does not mean I want Apartheid back.
Right thanks, that tells me all I need to know. ;)
 

ForceFate

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Don't see that I posted this anywhere, hence the reason I am asking what was on your mind.... The DA is a useless party. Has nothing to do with Apartheid.
As much as you won't admit it, things could've been much worse without the DA in the picture. Yes, EFF came along and also made their contribution as well but JZ could've run away with everything without DA's oversight.
 

hungrymamba

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If Mashaba thinks promoting property rights, free market economics, free speech and non racialism is now considered 'far right wing', then it will be no loss for the DA.
Well then, the DA deserves all the loses coming their way - then there will be no party to speak of.

Maybe that's the ultimate goal of the IRR, to kill the DA to bolter support for the right-wing Godfathers ... The FF+... The ANC and the EFF will be the biggest winners if the DA dies.
 

Jopie Fourie

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As much as you won't admit it, things could've been much worse without the DA in the picture. Yes, EFF came along and also made their contribution as well but JZ could've run away with everything without DA's oversight.
He might just as well have. He left a broken country that could no longer be fixed. At least, under his rule it was not a free-for-all. He did not like unapproved thieves and executed a tight rule.
 

ForceFate

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Why would this make any difference? Whether I vote ANC, FF+, Good, whatever, it does not mean I want Apartheid back. My vote could purely be based on the fact that I want a party that represents me. Does not mean I want Apartheid back. This is a common tactic used by the ANC and DA. If you do not vote for them you are racist and want Apartheid back.
It's a tactic
He might just as well have. He left a broken country that could no longer be fixed. At least, under his rule it was not a free-for-all. He did not like unapproved thieves and executed a tight rule.
Actually it was free-for-all, as long as you tow a certain line. Why do you think there's so much resistance to the new sheriff? You haven't heard what bottom feeders of the lax procurement controls at the SOE's have to say, have you?
 

ForceFate

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No, they will never win the anc at their own came.
Growth vs Win. There's no doubt they won't unseat the ANC in the next few decades, but they can see meaningful growth if they play their cards tactically well.
 

rietrot

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Growth vs Win. There's no doubt they won't unseat the ANC in the next few decades, but they can see meaningful growth if they play their cards tactically well.
Some people just have to learn the hard way.
 
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