The DA is in total crisis.

[TheChamp]

I hope for his sake that he has no smallernyana skeletons, they have a tendency of tumbling out at the most convenient times.

LISTEN | Bongani Baloyi didn’t vote for the DA in local elections

In a wide-ranging interview on with Eusebius on TimesLIVE, former Midvaal mayor Bongani Baloyi explained why he did not vote for his former party, the DA, in last year’s local government elections.

www.timeslive.co.za

 

[PrimeSteak]

I hope for his sake that he has no smallernyana skeletons, they have a tendency of tumbling out at the most convenient times.

LISTEN | Bongani Baloyi didn’t vote for the DA in local elections

In a wide-ranging interview on with Eusebius on TimesLIVE, former Midvaal mayor Bongani Baloyi explained why he did not vote for his former party, the DA, in last year’s local government elections.

www.timeslive.co.za

He seems really eager to go after the DA now, so much for holding no grudges then...?

Anyway, I agree with you. I'm also curious to see who the new member of ActionSA is going to be.

 

[PrimeSteak]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490618636532391937

Ekurhuleni coalition govt doomed to fail due to lack of compromise - ActionSA | News24

The DA-led multi-party coalition’s refusal to work with the EFF will have detrimental effects on stability in the Ekurhuleni council, Action SA says.

www.news24.com

• ActionSA, which forms part of the coalition, has raised concern over the low voting margins in the coalition.
• The party has blamed its coalition partners' lack of compromise and unwillingness to work with the EFF as the reasons for the possible governance crisis.

The DA led the charge making its stance known that it was unwilling to negotiate with the EFF following the municipal elections.

The party's leaders, including John Steenhuisen, had cited previous governance spats in governing Johannesburg as a reason why the EFF could not be trusted.

DA had also been clear since the start of the election campaign that they wouldn't work willingly with the EFF?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490644415349673984

So in other words, ASA is not happy that the other coalition partners don't want to work with EFF, even tho they don't have a great track record in working with others? (Ref: 2016 DA/EFF failed coalitions) But on the other side, it seems like it's about Ekhuruleni, so numbers are stacked against the coalition anyway.

In conclusion, will the coalition bend the knee towards EFF publicly or will they opt for a risky minority gov in Ekhuruleni?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Mashaba is scum - he basically sold many voters a big fat lie ...I'm sure many of those voting for Mashaba in suburban JHB might be feeling a twinge of regret now. He was an EFF acolyte while DA mayor... leopards never change their spots.

 

[TheChamp]

Mashaba is scum - he basically sold many voters a big fat lie ...I'm sure many of those voting for Mashaba in suburban JHB might be feeling a twinge of regret now. He was an EFF acolyte while DA mayor... leopards never change their spots.

They knew he managed to have a good working relationship with the EFF in JHB, they voted for him knowing very well that he could go into a coalition with the EFF, what regrets could those who voted for possibly have, what fat lie did he sell them?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

They knew he maged to have a good working relationship with the EFF in JHB, they voted for him knowing very well that he could go into a coalition with the EFF, what regrets could those who voted for possibly have, what fat lie did he sell them?

Given that he got support from a few ex-DA voters in JHB and PTA, it's likely his flirtation with the EFF wasn't mentioned when campaigning in such wards given that your average DA voter really loathes the EFF. I also find it ironic that Action SA is bringing this up now when they knew when they signed the coalition agreement that their primary coalition partner (the DA) would under no circumstances go into coalition with the EFF.

 

[TheChamp]

Given that he got support from a few ex-DA voters in JHB and PTA, it's likely his flirtation with the EFF wasn't mentioned when campaigning in such wards given that your average DA voter really loathes the EFF. I also find it ironic that Action SA is bringing this up now when they knew when they signed the coalition agreement that their primary coalition partner (the DA) would under no circumstances go into coalition with the EFF.

The exDA voters voted for him knowing fully well he is the same Herman Mashaba who has worked with the EFF before? Unless for some reason they thought he was now a different person?

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

The exDA voters voted for him knowing fully well he is the same Herman Mashaba who has worked with the EFF before? Unless for some reason they thought he was now a different person?

Or alternatively, many just weren't paying attention. Remember the coalition collapsed a bit before the 2021 LGE and many people have short memories.

Anyhow in more positive news, imagine having a mayor directly respond to your complaint on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490777254917509123

 

[TheChamp]

Or alternatively, many just weren't paying attention. Remember the coalition collapsed a bit before the 2021 LGE and many people have short memories.

Anyhow in more positive news, imagine having a mayor directly respond to your complaint on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490777254917509123

That's very nice of the mayor but what was happening from September until now? Looking at it in a different way it does paint a not so positive picture.

 

[R13...]

Given that he got support from a few ex-DA voters in JHB and PTA, it's likely his flirtation with the EFF wasn't mentioned when campaigning in such wards given that your average DA voter really loathes the EFF. I also find it ironic that Action SA is bringing this up now when they knew when they signed the coalition agreement that their primary coalition partner (the DA) would under no circumstances go into coalition with the EFF.

What you're missing is that the DA apparently asked Mashaba to go speak to the EFF. Zille says, they did so to learn the EFF strategy so they can counter and they didn't intend on actually working with EFF. It is an astonishing admit to make in public.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

What you're missing is that the DA apparently asked Mashaba to go speak to the EFF. Zille says, they did so to learn the EFF strategy so they can counter and they didn't intend on actually working with EFF. It is an astonishing admit to make in public.

I thought Zille had denied that had happened?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490637562528075778

I see Action SA has got another big fish;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490936532743569408

Big mistake IMO.

 

[TheChamp]

Now that is a Big Fish, a real politician that they have always needed. Politics in NMB is about to get interesting.

 

[TheChamp]

I thought Zille had denied that had happened?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490637562528075778

I see Action SA has got another big fish;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490936532743569408

Big mistake IMO.

A big mistake by ActionSA or Trollip?

 

[PrimeSteak]

I see Action SA has got another big fish;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490936532743569408

Big mistake IMO.

Wow, they got Trollip? Damn, seems like PE is all to play for again...

Seems like ActionSA is managing to draw former high-profile party members from ANC and DA. That's a good sign IMO.

A big mistake by ActionSA or Trollip?

How is it a mistake tho?

 

[PrimeSteak]

Now that is a Big Fish, a real politician that they have always needed.

It's super interesting, it seems like ASA is growing quite quickly. Taking former high-profile members from both ANC and DA in the process too, I really want to see how well they do in 2024. Because of the way things are going now, they seem to be one of the top gunners for 2024.

Politics in NMB is about to get interesting.

Agreed.

P.S I'm considering opening an ActionSA thread in N&CA, you think I should do it? And no it won't be a crisis thread lol

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Wow, they got Trollip? Damn, seems like PE is all to play for again...

Seems like ActionSA is managing to draw former high-profile party members from ANC and DA. That's a good sign IMO.

How is it a mistake tho?

True, Trollip took the DA to where it was in EC. The current leadership in EC is very weak and guys like Renaldo Gouws are sending people away from the party than bringing people to it.

Trollip has a following and if Action SA play their cards right, they can gain significant ground in EC. Potentially taking youth votes from the EFF as well.

I won't be surprised if Mphiti joins now as well. Mphiti seemed to view Trollip as a father figure.

 

[daveza]

Just dropped in to check the DA is still in a total crisis - unlike the ANC which is a pillar of unity and stability.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

It's super interesting, it seems like ASA is growing quite quickly. Taking former high-profile members from both ANC and DA in the process too

This also explains the co-ordinated DA attack on ASA to try and curb their growth. They have also summoned their agents in the media like Van Onselen and some in the IRR to assist.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Just dropped in to check the DA is still in a total crisis - unlike the ANC which is a pillar of unity and stability.

Critiques of the DA and ANC are not mutually exclusive just as critiques of the ANC and EFF are not mutually exclusive.

People critique the EFF which is not the ruling party all the time on Mybb yet they are not told to focus on the ANC when that happens.

 

[PrimeSteak]

True, Trollip took the DA to where it was in EC. The current leadership in EC is very weak and guys like Renaldo Gouws are sending people away from the party than bringing people to it.

Trollip has a following and if Action SA play their cards right, they can gain significant ground in EC. Potentially taking youth votes from the EFF as well.

I won't be surprised if Mphiti joins now as well. Mphiti seemed to view Trollip as a father figure.

You mean the DA youth leader? Don't know about that honestly. But hey, it would be cool to see the ANC get rocked in EC and other provinces too but I'm not holding my breath for the other provinces except Gauteng? Northern Cape, Free State and KZN are unknowns, Western Cape will either remain under DA or DA-coalition control. And you can forget about Limpopo and Mpumalanga, those are ANC territories confirmed.