The DA is in total crisis.

[PrimeSteak]

Just dropped in to check the DA is still in a total crisis - unlike the ANC which is a pillar of unity and stability.

Tbh this thread is just to talk about everything DA at this point

 

[JuliusSeizure]

You mean the DA youth leader? Don't know about that honestly. But hey, it would be cool to see the ANC get rocked in EC and other provinces too but I'm not holding my breath for the other provinces except Gauteng? Northern Cape, Free State and KZN are unknowns, Western Cape will either remain under DA or DA-coalition control. And you can forget about Limpopo and Mpumalanga, those are ANC territories confirmed.

Agreed, DA will continue to control WC though with reduced majorities. There is a growing perception in lower middle class/working class communities that they control that the voters were used as voting fodder and parties like Good, PA and probably now Action SA will play on this message to grow their voter base as a big part of their target market is apathetic DA voters.

Herron etc is quite successful at doing it on Twitter.

 

[surface]

Just dropped in to check the DA is still in a total crisis - unlike the ANC which is a pillar of unity and stability.

Us ANC cadres get paid to post in DA threads - we are just doing our jobs.

If you wanna contribute to ANC crisis, visit here.

The ANC is in total crisis.

Hi all, this is similar to the thread dedicated to the DA being in total crisis (which is used as a platform for people to vent about the party). I only thought it fair to make one for the ANC, where forumers can vent about how the ANC is in total crisis. To kick off the conversation about the...

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[The Darkness]

True, Trollip took the DA to where it was in EC. The current leadership in EC is very weak and guys like Renaldo Gouws are sending people away from the party than bringing people to it.

Trollip has a following and if Action SA play their cards right, they can gain significant ground in EC. Potentially taking youth votes from the EFF as well.

I won't be surprised if Mphiti joins now as well. Mphiti seemed to view Trollip as a father figure.

Yes, it's going to be a struggle for Renaldo Gouws to get people to take him seriously. His bullshjit "Tsek" 'merch' and his right-wing leaning views over the many years of ranting and carrying on over at YouTube. He lacks credentials, has a big mouth, but lacks credentials. That's really the overall issue with the DA though, they all lack credentials. You've got 'matric' Mazzoni, Steenhuizen has no qualifications either. Why is it that corporate structures require qualified people, yet political parties not? This alone says everything you need to know about the overall attempt to lead. I'm pretty sick of it all, and it's really the one thing SA is crying for, GREAT LEADERS.

 

[PrimeSteak]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490949820609368067

Multi-party coalition response to ActionSA's statement from yesterday. Essentially says that ActionSA has persistently tried to get EFF into the coalition, which the other partners vehemently refused to allow. Calls out ASA for saying that **** about the DA secretly trying to get EFF involved via ActionSA.

 

[cr@zydude]

I thought Zille had denied that had happened?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490637562528075778

I see Action SA has got another big fish;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490936532743569408

Big mistake IMO.

Damn, that is a big fish.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Yes, it's going to be a struggle for Renaldo Gouws to get people to take him seriously. His bullshjit "Tsek" 'merch' and his right-wing leaning views over the many years of ranting and carrying on over at YouTube. He lacks credentials, has a big mouth, but lacks credentials. That's really the overall issue with the DA though, they all lack credentials. You've got 'matric' Mazzoni, Steenhuizen has no qualifications either. Why is it that corporate structures require qualified people, yet political parties not? This alone says everything you need to know about the overall attempt to lead. I'm pretty sick of it all, and it's really the one thing SA is crying for, GREAT LEADERS.

They might all sell it otherwize but a big part of politics is cadre deployment, all the parties practice it to an extent and have a set of guys and teams that they want to employ to strategic positions once they have power. They are not always the best suited for the job.

Politics is about resource control, power and strategic positions, not as much about the people.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

Damn, that is a big fish.

Macpherson is such a tool and liability to the DA. He's definitely only survived because he's Steenhuisen's best friend. He admitted he erred and that he put up the Phoenix posters without authorization yet no disciplinary hearing because he's Steenhuisen's best friend.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

A big mistake by ActionSA or Trollip?

Trollip. Someone mentioned on Twitter that Action SA might end up like Cope...I find it hard to disagree. Too many people with big egos are joining Action SA with largely divergent views and I find it hard to describe Action SA's governing ideology.

Trollip almost became DA leader or federal chair IIRC. This is a genuine loss for the DA.

 

[surface]

Damn, that is a big fish.

Are we sure? Was he really effective at all? Surely, we can dig something about him now?

 

[R13...]

I thought Zille had denied that had happened?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490637562528075778

I see Action SA has got another big fish;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1490936532743569408

Big mistake IMO.

I'll need to check the podcast tomorrow but I'm sure she said that's what happened. She denied that they sent him to get agreement.

 

[TheChamp]

Wow, they got Trollip? Damn, seems like PE is all to play for again...

Seems like ActionSA is managing to draw former high-profile party members from ANC and DA. That's a good sign IMO.

How is it a mistake tho?

That is what I was about to ask, as soon as I understand who is making a big mistake.

 

[TheChamp]

Trollip. Someone mentioned on Twitter that Action SA might end up like Cope...I find it hard to disagree. Too many people with big egos are joining Action SA with largely divergent views and I find it hard to describe Action SA's governing ideology.

Trollip almost became DA leader or federal chair IIRC. This is a genuine loss for the DA.

He was no longer employed by the DA, no longer active in its activities, what's the worst that could happen if ActionSA does go the way of COPE?

 

[TheChamp]

Tbh this thread is just to talk about everything DA at this point

There is an ANC thread that was created out of disgruntlement about this thread, you would think people would go there if they feel they want to vent about the ANC, maybe it's about time people admitthere is something about this thread.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

He was no longer employed by the DA, no longer active in its activities, what's the worst that could happen if ActionSA does go the way of COPE?

We don't know how Action SA will turn out. Maybe it will fizzle out, maybe not.

What is evident is that DA die-hard supporters and members want it to go the way of COPE, hence their obviously planned social media attacks.

If Mashaba is smart though, he should set up Baloyi to succeed him after the 2024 elections as leader. Baloyi has attracted a lot of hate from the DA now like a heel in the WWE and is being spoken about a lot which is actually a good thing. You want charasmatic guys who can generate conversation and Baloyi seems the real deal when it comes to that.

 

[ShaunSA]

Seems like ActionSA is managing to draw former high-profile party members from ANC and DA. That's a good sign IMO.

Yeah it's always so exciting when hookers change pimps. They're practically born again virgins

 

[surface]

That is what I was about to ask, as soon as I understand who is making a big mistake.

Looks like Mashaba is taking him just to score some WEE points.

 

[cr@zydude]

Are we sure? Was he really effective at all? Surely, we can dig something about him now?

I wouldn't be surprised if the DA leaked something soon. Trollip was pretty high up in the DA, but now that he is with ASA, he will surely be painted as a bad person.

 

[PrimeSteak]

There is an ANC thread that was created out of disgruntlement about this thread

I would say less out of disgruntlement and more of a mocking tone to/meme about this thread. I mean this thread is notorious for complaining over everything about the DA 95% of the time so...

I mean they might as well change this thread's title to "The DA thread" since the DA is no longer in crisis as well tbh.

I'm actually for a SA politics thread, maybe combine this one with the ANC in crisis thread to create it, to finally get some order in regards to SA Politics in N&CA?

 

[theratman]

I would say less out of disgruntlement and more of a mocking tone to/meme about this thread. I mean this thread is notorious for complaining over everything about the DA 95% of the time so...

I mean they might as well change this thread's title to "The DA thread" since the DA is no longer in crisis as well tbh.

I'm actually for a SA politics thread, maybe combine this one with the ANC in crisis thread to create it, to finally get some order in regards to SA Politics in N&CA?

Why not make a new SA politics thread? Doesn't need to be combined, it's reaching its post limit as is, and a fresh start is better. Problem is there are folks who get butt hurt when bad things are said about party A, so they flood the thread with good things about party A, or bad things about party B.