The DA is in total crisis.

[ShaunSA]

We see through you now...

You can blame Tannie Pat for that

Can't build a fence to save her life

 

[TheChamp]

PA and ICOSA - Good to know your priorities:

ICOSA was founded by Truman Prince (remember him from the TV documentary on child prostitution which showed him flirting with underage girls at a truck stop in Beaufort West?)
It is led by Jeffrey Donson who was convicted of statutory rape and indecent assault of a 15-year-old girl.
His deputy Werner Meshoa was convicted of fraud and obstruction of justice.

The fact that you prefer these guys to the Good party simply makes the unreasonableness of your bias apparent... As long as they don't criticise the DA all is forgiven apparently... We see through you now...

He most definitely doesn't cope well with DA criticism.

 

[TheChamp]

'Meeting her was a mistake' — Herman, Bongani and Mmusi slam Helen Zille

"I am saddened by ever coming across and being associated with Helen Zille. We make mistakes in life, and I can admit that meeting Helen was one of those mistakes I made. I am only human," said Herman Mashaba.

www.timeslive.co.za

“I am saddened by ever coming across and being associated with Helen Zille. We make mistakes in life, and I can admit that meeting Helen was one of those mistakes I made. I am only human,” said Mashaba.

 

[ShaunSA]

'Meeting her was a mistake' — Herman, Bongani and Mmusi slam Helen Zille

"I am saddened by ever coming across and being associated with Helen Zille. We make mistakes in life, and I can admit that meeting Helen was one of those mistakes I made. I am only human," said Herman Mashaba.

www.timeslive.co.za

“I am saddened by ever coming across and being associated with Helen Zille. We make mistakes in life, and I can admit that meeting Helen was one of those mistakes I made. I am only human,” said Mashaba.

DA member from 2014 to 2019. That's not a mistake Herman

 

[PrimeSteak]

PA and ICOSA - Good to know your priorities:

ICOSA was founded by Truman Prince (remember him from the TV documentary on child prostitution which showed him flirting with underage girls at a truck stop in Beaufort West?)
It is led by Jeffrey Donson who was convicted of statutory rape and indecent assault of a 15-year-old girl.
His deputy Werner Meshoa was convicted of fraud and obstruction of justice.

I don't care about the one and the other I firmly despise as I have mentioned before in other threads. ICOSA is the latter. So nice try.

Also, nice virtue signalling there as you would call it.

The fact that you prefer these guys to the Good party simply makes the unreasonableness of your bias apparent...

You see, you can see straight through them, they play their cards outright. Unlike the "defenders of democracy" who hype themselves up so much and cry so much about the DA (making that a core tenet of their identity) that you get the feel that they only exist to spite the DA instead of being a viable opposition party

As long as they don't criticise the DA all is forgiven apparently...

As I've said in the past about your fav, I don't mind parties critiquing the DA, according to that metric I should not support ASA? Apparently, I should disavow myself too, since I have disagreed with/critiqued the DA in the past?

The problem is making "DA BAD" your party's entire identity.

We see through you now...

We? Would that be you, Pat and Herron?

P.S I also figured out your game long ago, C4GOOD.

 

[PrimeSteak]

He most definitely doesn't cope well with DA criticism.

Hey, btw how's it going with that Durban municipality flood relief scandal? Is it still fake news as declared by the glorious movement in charge there?

Also, you don't cope well with ANC critiques either for someone who says he doesn't care much for the ANC... Goes both ways, Honorary Master...

 

[TheChamp]

Hey, btw how's it going with that Durban municipality flood relief scandal? Is it still fake news as declared by the glorious movement in charge there?

Also, you don't cope well with ANC critiques either for someone who says he doesn't care much for the ANC... Goes both ways, Honorary Master...

One of us is moaning because opposition parties are holding the governing party accountable, and it's not me.

GOOD are just doing to the DA what the DA does to the ANC and you are clearly not coping.

 

[JuliusSeizure]

We? Would that be you, Pat and Herron?

P.S I also figured out your game long ago, C4GOOD.

Good are mainly a Western Cape centred party and as they are in direct competition to the DA for voters (more so than the ANC), their job will be to attack the DA just as the VF+ attack the DA.

The VF+ don't get as much heat for attacking the DA as Good do. The VF+ have gone further than Good in attacking the DA and even made a video where they had a burning ceremony which included DA shirts.

 

[TheChamp]

Good are mainly a Western Cape cenrted party and as they are in direct competition to the DA for voters (more so than the ANC), their job will be to attack the DA just as the VF+ attack the DA.

The VF+ don't get as much heat for attacking the DA as Good do. The VF+ have gone further than Good in attacking the DA and even made a video where they had a burning ceremony which included DA shirts.

He prefers that everyone should simply ignore a party that is in power in the WC and everyone unite and focus on the ANC, which of course is very absurd, issues like Madikizela lying about his qualifications and being rewarded with a high paying post, Fritz, Nora Grose and all the service delivery failures of the DA should be ignored, all eyes on the ANC.

GOOD is doing a very good job in the WC and they should keep it up, we would never know about all the scandalous things DA get to if it wasn't for them, Brett Herron is a hero.

 

[C4Cat]

We? Would that be you, Pat and Herron?

No, everyone reading this thread. We can all see through you now. I doubt Pat and Herron even know you exist

 

[C4Cat]

The problem is making "DA BAD" your party's entire identity.

They are an opposition party primarily based in the Western Cape where the DA is the ruling party.
Of course a large part of their identity is to call out and criticise the ruling party.

Making "ANC BAD" is a major part of the DA identity, as is "GOOD BAD" and "ACTIONSA BAD".
PA and ICOSA are apparently ok though

 

[PrimeSteak]

GOOD are just doing to the DA what the DA does to the ANC

And you're enjoying every second of it.

and you are clearly not coping.

Lmao, "Oh no, The Honorary Master of myBB disagrees with me on something, my life is over, HOW WILL I EVER COPE?"

 

[PrimeSteak]

Good are mainly a Western Cape cenrted party and as they are in direct competition to the DA for voters (more so than the ANC), their job will be to attack the DA just as the VF+ attack the DA.

The VF+ don't get as much heat for attacking the DA as Good do. The VF+ have gone further than Good in attacking the DA and even made a video where they had a burning ceremony which included DA shirts.

Ok? I know about the vid? As I said, I don't have a problem with parties critiquing the DA itself.

My problem is that GOOD makes it their whole identity, sure, they would have more leeway if they were OO in WC, but they aren't... Not even ANC WC harps on this much about DA WC like GOOD does...

 

[PrimeSteak]

We can all see through you now.

Oh? And please tell me what is it that you see? Am I also a "DA worshipper" now?

LMAO

 

[PrimeSteak]

They are an opposition party primarily based in the Western Cape where the DA is the ruling party.
Of course a large part of their identity is to call out and criticise the ruling party.

So what you're saying is that GOOD has nothing else to offer except "DA BAD"?

PA and ICOSA are apparently ok though

Like I said I ignore the PA and I despise ICOSA. But sure, keep going with this...

Perhaps if you repeat it enough, Herron will become WC Premier in 2024.

Making "ANC BAD" is a major part of the DA identity, as is "GOOD BAD" and "ACTIONSA BAD".

See that's where you're wrong, the DA doesn't just exist to spite other parties. Same with ActionSA, they don't exist just to spite the DA.

They actually offer **** to South Africans, GOOD not so much, except "DA BAD".

 

[C4Cat]

So what you're saying is that GOOD has nothing else to offer except "DA BAD"?

Not at all what I'm saying. Your wilful misinterpretation shows your bias again. Fact is, the voters have not given Good the necessary mandate to implement their policies so yes, as it currently stands they are primarily an opposition party. Given a mandate this would change, of course.

Like I said I ignore the PA and I despise ICOSA. But sure, keep going with this...

Like you said:

So yes, even ex-convicts are better than glorious GOOD.

Perhaps if you repeat it enough, Herron will become WC Premier in 2024.

Nobody sees that happening, you're fighting with people in your head now.

See that's where you're wrong, the DA doesn't just exist to spite other parties. Same with ActionSA, they don't exist just to spite the DA.

They have been given mandates by the voters

They actually offer **** to South Africans, GOOD not so much, except "DA BAD".

Give Good a mandate and they will show how much they have to offer

 

[PrimeSteak]

Not at all what I'm saying. Your wilful misinterpretation shows your bias again.

No, no, don't reverse now with "willful misinterpretation".

Of course a large part of their identity is to call out and criticise the ruling party.

Nobody sees that happening, you're fighting with people in your head now.

Damn, you got little faith even in your own party of choice, lol

They have been given mandates by the voters

And? How did they manage that? They had actual offers to voters. Unlike...

Give Good a mandate and they will show how much they have to offer

You shouldn't have to give a party a mandate first before they show you what they offer?

Since you need to know what they offer and do before you pick a specific party to vote for?
Otherwise, you can pick a party at random to give a mandate to and hope they do what YOU specifically want, which wouldn't make much sense.

 

[C4Cat]

They have been given mandates by the voters

And? How did they manage that? They had actual offers to voters. Unlike...

Apparently the ANC has the most to offer as they have the biggest mandate. Great logic there

You shouldn't have to give a party a mandate first before they show you what they offer?

Since you need to know what they offer and do before you pick a specific party to vote for?
Otherwise, you can pick a party at random to give a mandate to and hope they do what YOU specifically want, which wouldn't make much sense.

Of course they have policy documents. Just because you have no idea what their policies are, and have never bothered to find out, doesn't mean the policies don't exist. We know what they have to offer, I wouldn't have voted for them otherwise - what they need now is the mandate to show us what they can do.

 

[ShaunSA]

Joh you guys get passionate about your "I am not an XYZ Party Supporter" but....

 

[PrimeSteak]

Apparently the ANC has the most to offer as they have the biggest mandate. Great logic there

Wow, you just complained about "willful misrepresentation", yet look at you now... lol

Not what I meant, but whatever.

Of course they have policy documents. Just because you have no idea what their policies are, and have never bothered to find out, doesn't mean the policies don't exist.

I did find out. And I didn't say that they don't have policies. You're straw-manning now.

We know what they have to offer, I wouldn't have voted for them otherwise - what they need now is the mandate to show us what they can do.

To quote you:

Nobody sees that happening

Agree to disagree, gg wp