The DA is in total crisis.

Do the DA need a new leader?

  • Yes

    Votes: 119 82.1%
  • No

    Votes: 26 17.9%
  • MMusi saw this poll and resigned.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Epstein didn't kill himself.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    145
  • Poll closed .

newjourno

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I love how just because one doesn't believe in or pander to race politics one is right-leaning. I love how "England for the English" (aka white) is called far right, but "blacks must be majority represented in everything just because this is Africa" is left and (supposedly) cool.

Wow, that is a right-wing spin on things.
 

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Fact is that there is no place for centrists in SA. The EFF is the fastest growing party with the stated aim of eradicating whites. As a white you need to oppose that and as a white you must ask yourself where the best place will be to oppose it and lastly as a white you must also ask yourslef why the ANC is silently condoning the antics of the EFF.
 

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As a white you need to oppose that and as a white you must ask yourself where the best place will be to oppose it and lastly as a white you must also ask yourslef why the ANC is silently condoning the antics of the EFF.

The IFP is also a conservative party which rejects BEE etc, yet not many here seem to see them as a alternative. If you are a centrist-leaning right in KZN, your vote would be better served going to the IFP than the VF+.
 

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I see he can also speak English. I believe it was a good idea to balance the two languages in his victory speech

If it was Western Cape, I would have agreed that using English and Afrikaans would have been the way to go.

If it was KZN, Zulu and English.

The dominant language in North West is Tswana.
 

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If it was Western Cape, I would have agreed that using English and Afrikaans would have been the way to go.

If it was KZN, Zulu and English.

The dominant language in North West is Tswana.

Does he know Tswana? How many languages do you speak pretty fluently?
 
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Doe she know Tswana? How many languages do you speak pretty fluently?

The second question is irrelevant as I have no interest to get into politics.

If the DA wants to grow in that Province, they should ideally appoint someone who is familiar with the Tswana people and language (regardless of whether they are white or black). Similarly, in the Western Cape, their leader should be someone who has an understanding of Afrikaans. Can't they learn from Trollip? Part of the reason he was so successful is because he understood the Xhosa culture and language.

This easily can be construed as him only caring for a certain groups and this is something that the DA needs to be really careful about, especially given the context. The DA has been losing the white Afrikaans vote in large numbers and so this can also be construed as cheap political tactics to try and win them back. He has also not been the only DA member to do this recently.

Even Julius is well-aware of this (he has a diverse following among the different cultures of South Africa) and this is a big reason why he only gives most of his speeches in English.
 
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Can't they learn from Trollip? Part of the reason he was so successful is because he understood the Xhosa culture and language.
Learning different language is not easy. I agree that Politicians should make an effort to bridge divide but then as you learnt by comments on your post, he is most likely trying to bridge anglo-boer wounds.
 

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Looking at their focus on the Afrikaner vote it's not much of a surprise, everyone in the DA understands that's the party's current priority.
 

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That seems like the biggest concern to the DA, they are not as concerned about Xhosa/Zulu wounds etc.
They have accepted that they will not grow the black vote and are content to be a white party competing with the likes of VF+ for the while vote.


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They have accepted that they will not grow the black vote and are content to be a white party competing with the likes of VF+ for the while vote.


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They can grow the black vote, they are just not interested in doing so because they haven't found ways of doing it that doesn't offend their traditional voter base, so they'd rather sacrifice their growth just to appease their traditional supporters.
 

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They can grow the black vote, they are just not interested in doing so because they haven't found ways of doing it that doesn't offend their traditional voter base, so they'd rather sacrifice their growth just to appease their traditional supporters.
Yes, they have accepted their niche and abandoned any plans to beat the ANC (only possible with black votes).
 

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They have accepted that they will not grow the black vote and are content to be a white party competing with the likes of VF+ for the while vote.


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Well that is racist nonsense and assumes all black people are communist and racist who only care about how black a politician is.

Traditional ANC voters will always vote ANC.
Revolutionaries with nothing left to lose will vote EFF.
But there is an large black middle class who can still vote for the DA. And their current strategy as aimed at them just as much as it is aimed afrikaans people.

Do you seriously think afrikaans people will be impressed with a few white faces, enough to switch their vote back? Lol.
 

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Well that is racist nonsense and assumes all black people are communist and racist who only care about how black a politician is.

Traditional ANC voters will always vote ANC.
Revolutionaries with nothing left to lose will vote EFF.
But there is an large black middle class who can still vote for the DA. And their current strategy as aimed at them just as much as it is aimed afrikaans people.

Do you seriously think afrikaans people will be impressed with a few white faces, enough to switch their vote back? Lol.
Few white faces? The DA leadership is predominantly white. Maybe you can talk of "few black faces."

Provide more details on the DA strategy to attract the black middle class.
 
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