The DA is in total crisis.

Do the DA need a new leader?

  • Yes

    Votes: 188 55.6%

  • No

    Votes: 64 18.9%

  • MMusi saw this poll and resigned.

    Votes: 17 5.0%

  • Epstein didn't kill himself.

    Votes: 69 20.4%

  • Please change the thread title

    Votes: 41 12.1%
  • Total voters
    338
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CommonSense

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yebocan said:
Sad thing is DA was well on its way becoming a viable alternative to the ANC -- but Helen and her laptop boys killed the dream and has set ZA opposition politics back for a generation, if not more. If only they understood that their party always initially leaks support, when it pivots to a more progressive direction...but always comes back stronger as the tent becomes bigger....Progressive Party, pivoted united likeminded into the DP...even old Tony realised that he could not lead the new incarnation/DA to poll success ... the DA leadership should read some of John X Merriman's ramblings about progressiveness ...and how the progressive dream at the Cape was deferred in 1910 ... due to fear of losing control and none whites becoming a real political force... "this has happened before, and will happen again, again, again..."
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Exactly. Lets take another recent example in SA Politics. Best example.

The NP pivoted to become the NNP.
And today thy are in government.
 
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yebocan said:
we needed an alternative, even one with compromised core values...there were plenty of good, of all colours within...and plenty more were signing up to a ZA for all....that turned out to be yet another example of not being able to transcend ones personal fear and placing people/country first.
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The alternative was sacrificing an innocent white teacher in Schweizer Reneke for the greater good?
Some values you don't compromise on. I hope the DA learned their lesson.
 
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Vrotappel said:
The alternative was sacrificing an innocent white teacher in Schweizer Reneke for the greater good?
Some values you don't compromise on. I hope the DA learned their lesson.
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I forgot about that one tbh. For me it was when it came to the Mmusi with his "‘What @ Ashwinwillemse experienced yesterday is still sadly an experience for too many South Africans" without knowing facts. It showed the DA had floated into the dangerous area populous where they were willing to throw innocents under the bus. The DA has become as racist as the ANC, EFF, BLF. Not something that gets my vote.

Yet ironically this is exactly what some people suggest the DA do now. The same ones that spewed garbage about Helen, the racist? I guess we should have stayed with the old NP then for a certain good ...?

Nottafok! Keep it real.
 
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She's back! DA MP Phumzile Van Damme's sabbatical ends abruptly

DA MP Phumzile Van Damme is back at work, weeks before her controversial sabbatical leave was scheduled to end.
www.timeslive.co.za www.timeslive.co.za

DA MP Phumzile Van Damme is back at work, weeks before her controversial sabbatical leave was scheduled to end.

In fact, DA leader John Steenhuisen has suggested that Van Damme, who vowed to challenge her unusual leave, never went on sabbatical.
 
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I liked the comment here. 'DA has become as racist as ANC, EFF and BLF' - This is so hilarious on many levels.
 
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