The DA is in total crisis.

Do the DA need a new leader?

  • Yes

    Votes: 188 55.6%
  • No

    Votes: 64 18.9%
  • MMusi saw this poll and resigned.

    Votes: 17 5.0%
  • Epstein didn't kill himself.

    Votes: 69 20.4%
  • Please change the thread title

    Votes: 41 12.1%

  • Total voters
    338
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JuliusSeizure

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To those who think the DA is in a good space and think they will grow, where will their new voters come from?

I don't see Action SA or Mmusi Maimane's new One SA Movement extremely well but they probably take away DA voters, same with VF+. Action SA seem to be pumping money into increasing their reach which might help them gain a traction among first time and undecided voters.

Mashaba's strategy of only contesting Gauteng for now was quite smart so he does have some political strategy.
 

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To those who think the DA is in a good space and think they will grow, where will their new voters come from?

I don't see Action SA or Mmusi Maimane's new One SA Movement extremely well but they probably take away DA voters, same with VF+. Action SA seem to be pumping money into increasing their reach which might help them gain a traction among first time and undecided voters.

Mashaba's strategy of only contesting Gauteng for now was quite smart so he does have some political strategy.
Zille is happy for them to remain a 20% party so growth is suspended until further notice.
 

rietrot

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Yes, maybe that's why she's so hellbent in sabotaging any growth under any other leader that threatens hers.
Or maybe you are as an EFF supporter.

Not that you have any real power to sabotage. At most you can only talk shít.
 

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They grew the most under Zille.
yep ... and that what makes the demise of the DA such a sad case for ZA ... its visionary leader ultimately became its destroyer in chief.... all that was required was patience but fear won the day and the country is worst off as a result.
 

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This old thread. Every time I see it, I am reminded of my general view on the matter.

The DA's level of crisis is like a storm, in a teacup, in an actual tornado (the underlying crisis from the ANC in our country).
The Cape, after all things said and done, is still way better run than the rest of the country, apart from notable ANC munis in the region that I'm aware of.

If it was not for the high levels of gang activity in some parts of Cape Town, then this place would be like 1st world, compared with the rest of SA.
 

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This old thread. Every time I see it, I am reminded of my general view on the matter.

The DA's level of crisis is like a storm, in a teacup, in an actual tornado (the underlying crisis from the ANC in our country).
The Cape, after all things said and done, is still way better run than the rest of the country, apart from notable ANC munis in the region that I'm aware of.

If it was not for the high levels of gang activity in some parts of Cape Town, then this place would be like 1st world, compared with the rest of SA.
Oh please, your facts are not welcome here... DA bad.
 

Tokolotshe

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Oh please, your facts are not welcome here... DA bad.
To understand this phenomena, you only have to look at the little cadres rewriting history in this very thread, opinionated with decidedly bad advice. Of course I could the specific real problems, but I'd suddenly be a racist (that train has long since left, the door opened by non self aware cadres in their slating).

Sigh ... let's go something constructive like build a pie in the sky city rather, or get a minister to go full tilt retard and racist.
 

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/Looks at the OP of the thread. :ROFL:
Maybe you misunderstood the OP. I never impleid that they can not govern. I was highly the fact that they were loosing support because of their identity politics.
 

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Maybe you misunderstood the OP. I never impleid that they can not govern. I was highly the fact that they were loosing support because of their identity politics.
No I did not, it is an open thread about the crises of the DA, yet you are now joining in on the butthurt legion of those offended by the criticism towards the DA.

Next time think twice before creating threads.
 

BBSA

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No I did not, it is an open thread about the crises of the DA, yet you are now joining in on the butthurt legion of those offended by the criticism towards the DA.

Next time think twice before creating threads.
You are totally wrong on this one, comrade. Not one of your assumptions is factual.
 

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Maybe you misunderstood the OP. I never impleid that they can not govern. I was highly the fact that they were loosing support because of their identity politics.
They're not out of the woods yet. In fact, they risk losing their status to fringe parties like EFF, which can spell disaster for the country.

Zille attempted to play identity politics in her time as party leader. She went as far as elevating relatively inexperienced and unknown faces to the top but for some unknown reason, this little fact is often overlooked when discussing the crisis within the party.

Zille created this crisis.
 

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No I did not, it is an open thread about the crises of the DA, yet you are now joining in on the butthurt legion of those offended by the criticism towards the DA.

Criticisms of the DA were only valid when Maimane was leader and even then, they were not applicable to all members, even though they were fully part and parcel of Maimane's decision making.
 

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Criticisms of the DA were only valid when Maimane was leader and even then, they were not applicable to all members, even though they were fully part and parcel of Maimane's decision making.
Your statement is also not factual. I'm still critical towards the DA, but that doesn't mean I can not acknowledge the fact they do govern well.
 
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