The DA is in total crisis.

Do the DA need a new leader?

  • Yes

    Votes: 119 82.1%
  • No

    Votes: 26 17.9%
  • MMusi saw this poll and resigned.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Epstein didn't kill himself.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    145
  • Poll closed .

ShaunSA

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Honestly I have no clue as to the details. I probably came across her name on reddit and I watch her as much as I watch fox news.

And yet you know she checks the right boxes :ROFL:

I bet you've been gobbling her up late night :whistling:
 

TheChamp

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First time I hear of these awards, well done to them.
 
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Would a DA and VF+ merger not make sense? It seems like the parties are starting to agree on more and more things. If they want to oust the ANC, it might also make sense to have one united front instead of trying to dig in each other's electorate.
 
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BBSA

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Would a DA and VF+ merger not make sense? It seems like the parties are starting to agree on more and more things. If they want to oust the ANC, it might also make sense to have one united front instead of trying to dig in each other's electorate.
DA will have to clarify their position on BEE. They are not clear if redress must be done based on race or not.
 

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DA will have to clarify their position on BEE. They are not clear if redress must be done based on race or not.

If I'm not mistaken, the new leadership favors the Gwenn Ngwenya model whereby redress is based on one's economic standing.

The negotiations should start.
 

BBSA

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If I'm not mistaken, the new leadership favors the Gwenn Ngwenya model whereby redress is based on one's economic standing.

The negotiations should start.
Gwen's proposal makes a lot of sense, but it is difficult to sell to people who think they benefit from BEE.

Yes, they will have to resolve this one as soon as possible.
 

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lol @ Candace Owens on Dave Rubin

She offers nothing new as everything which she says has already been said. She became famous because she is an aggressive young black woman who panders to right-wingers.

There are much better, balanced, and intelligent black conservatives than her.
 

saturnz

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She offers nothing new as everything which she says has already been said. She became famous because she is an aggressive young black woman who panders to right-wingers.

There are much better, balanced, and intelligent black conservatives than her.

Rubin is an idiot, Rogan took him apart with his post office and chicken story

and so Candace going on an idiot's show, well yeah, laughable
 

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Rubin is an idiot, Rogan took him apart with his post office and chicken story

Yes, and it's laughable how Rubin claims to be "left of centre" when all his views are right of centre. We have a lot of those types in SA.

Owens also has a show on Prager University which does wonders for her credibility.
 

wingnut771

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Would a DA and VF+ merger not make sense? It seems like the parties are starting to agree on more and more things. If they want to oust the ANC, it might also make sense to have one united front instead of trying to dig in each other's electorate.
Wouldn't it not matter as these 2 would go into coalition with each other anyway? I would like to see coalitions with DA, FF+, IFP, COPE. UDM is out with the way they acted in PE.
 

wingnut771

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True, the problem with being a politician is that you can't afford to be honest and say what's on your mind, just look at Tito.
Hopefully with the new electoral laws where there are independents things can change and one doesn't have to toe the party line.
 

TheChamp

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Hopefully with the new electoral laws where there are independents things can change and one doesn't have to toe the party line.
Hopefully, it's worrying that we don't see as many independents making their voice heard.
 
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notinterested

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Would a DA and VF+ merger not make sense? It seems like the parties are starting to agree on more and more things. If they want to oust the ANC, it might also make sense to have one united front instead of trying to dig in each other's electorate.

If they want to completely alienate the black voters they need to win, then yes.
 
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