The DA is in total crisis.

Do the DA need a new leader?

  • Yes

    Votes: 188 55.6%
  • No

    Votes: 64 18.9%
  • MMusi saw this poll and resigned.

    Votes: 17 5.0%
  • Epstein didn't kill himself.

    Votes: 69 20.4%
  • Please change the thread title

    Votes: 41 12.1%

  • Total voters
    338
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It's been known for a long time that Steenhuisen is not the sharpest tool. If the DA picked their leader "on merit", he definitely would have not been the leader.

I don't know why right-leaning DA voters think he is really the right man to fix the party.
tbh, zille can put carl niehaus there and votes DA get will not really change.
 

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This will be the DA's downfall. How can you go into coalition with a corrupt and incompetent ANC? Because now they will be just the same. Have some integrity guys, FF+ is the best option out there. a Party with integrity.
I am glad I am not the only one. Under the able leadership of Marais, it is going to be astonishing ride for us.
 

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It's been known for a long time that Steenhuisen is not the sharpest tool. If the DA picked their leader "on merit", he definitely would have not been the leader.

I don't know why right-leaning DA voters think he is really the right man to fix the party.
I don't know but I think the DA should have elected someone like Wilmot James back when he contested. Maimane was thrust to a demanding role too soon. He wasn't tge favourite of sections of the DA electorate so any mistake was going to be zoomed into and blown out of proportion.
 

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This will be the DA's downfall. How can you go into coalition with a corrupt and incompetent ANC? Because now they will be just the same. Have some integrity guys, FF+ is the best option out there. a Party with integrity.

Remember that the old leader of the VF+ took a minister role under Jacob Zuma.

The party consists of people who are morally corrupt and some who were part and parcel of financial corruption themselves. Many of them were part of the National Party and Conservative Party and this is a reason why they are always hesitant to admit that Apartheid caused anything bad in this country.
 

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Remember that the old leader of the VF+ took a minister role under Jacob Zuma.

The party consists of people who are morally corrupt and some who were part and parcel of financial corruption themselves. Many of them were part of the National Party and Conservative Party and this is a reason why they are always hesitant to admit that Apartheid caused anything bad in this country.
Yeah keep on telling yourself that.
 

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How much tax money did the FF steal compared to the ANC?

Wow, you are going around in circles. Nobody defended the ANC, we all know that they are corrupt. But corruption is corruption.

The goalposts always change when right whingers are in the wrong.
 

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This will be the DA's downfall. How can you go into coalition with a corrupt and incompetent ANC? Because now they will be just the same. Have some integrity guys, FF+ is the best option out there. a Party with integrity.
1. Not sure that the insignificant Carl Niehaus will have much say in the matter.
2. The DA did this in PLZ, JHB & PTA when they went into coalition with the EFF without informing us voters they'd be doing that before the local elections in 2016. They effectively p1ssed our votes down the toilet and were voted out in 2017, ushering in 3 years of wanton corruption.

So they have precedence for doing that and failing. I will be voting for Herman Mashaba's party if they contest those elections. Screw the DA!
 

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This will be the DA's downfall. How can you go into coalition with a corrupt and incompetent ANC? Because now they will be just the same. Have some integrity guys, FF+ is the best option out there. a Party with integrity.
FF+ aren't exactly targeting the black voters though, are they? They're never active in PLZ, you never hear about them. So they might increase their numbers, but it's going to take years and they have to shed this view they were born out of the right wing.
 

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FF+ aren't exactly targeting the black voters though, are they? They're never active in PLZ, you never hear about them. So they might increase their numbers, but it's going to take years and they have to shed this view they were born out of the right wing.
Well even if they did target blacks they will never get many black votes. You honestly think blacks will support a white party no matter how good they are?
 
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