The end of ATI?

Glordit

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I hope to God IBM buys them...
Stupid move my AMD buying ATi.

If nVidia buys AMD/ATi, say goodbye to low graphics card prices

Could be so, but then again people will refuse to pay so much for a GPU hence Nvidia loosing money.
 

Ou grote

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lol, it's simple, amd is in the poo, and now Nvidia and IBM are competing to buy amd because amd is important. but nvidia doesn't know if they cal buy amd because amd has theis big debt hanging over it, and IBM are just sitting there organising ways in which to acquire amd :D simple

As I followed the story, everyone had their turn in the poo, and everyone had turns to gang up on the other sides.

like sands through the hour glass...

Anyway, I buy Apple, so don't really care. I just take whatever China put in the mac.
 

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IBM has no interest in the X86 market at all. They have sold of a number of their semiconductor businesses and acquiring AMD isn't really a profitable nor viable thing to do. They have an x86 license and there's really nothing for them to do in that market. So the chances of an IBM buyout are really slim. In fact very few companies would actually be interested in that market, where they'd have to spend billions on fighting Intel in R&D, in court etc...

Don't see what Nvidia could do with AMD either... With a change of leadership due very soon at AMD things are going to turn around for the better.
 

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Don't see what Nvidia could do with AMD either... With a change of leadership due very soon at AMD things are going to turn around for the better.

I agree, I think AMD lacked good management and no-one wants to be AMD right now, Intel is a tough competitor, especially now, the company has evolved (hard for such a huge corporation). By evolve I mean their new policy on rapid CPU development and their new open press policy among other things.
 

dude#73

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This is way more entertaining than a soapie,AMD previously tried to buyout Nvidia twice,now Nvidia is actually thinking of buying them out!!!Lmao
Anyhow,competition is good,so i'd like to see AMD survive on their own and come up again
 

Eyenstyn

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AMD has been realy silent while Intel has been dominating. This makes one to assume that AMD does not have the hardware to compete.

I want AMD to cater for the lower market price range consumer as that is where the moola lies and nVidia does not want to even think about them, even tho they are the ones pushing the integrated onboard gfx cards.

nVidia is the bad guy in this as well as Intel. Coz if they win then one will be paying large amounts of cash on products that are not even good.

Competition is always good in the corporate sector! Go AMD!
 

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AMD buying Ati was the right thing to do, it is AMD's mess up with their latest products that is the prob ie slow ramp to 65nm, disaster with Phenom, 2000 series not living up to their hype and it goes on and on. They slept for to long, now they are slowly starting to wake up and nVidia is scared hence their interest.

Anyway just my uninformed opinion :)
 

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Nobody is gonna buy AMD/ATI. Its stupid from a financial point of view and risky from a technical point of view.
 

iDenTiTy

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Nobody is gonna buy AMD/ATI. Its stupid from a financial point of view and risky from a technical point of view.

Not only that.

The competition commision in the US will have something to say about that.


Between AMD and Nvidia, they contribute roughly 82% of discreet video hardware in the world. :eek:

IBM would do good to purchase AMD. It would give them a path into other avenues than research (which they currently are HEAVY into). How about an IBM video chip in ur cellphone ? ;)

Lets not forget. IBM IS the computer. Very smart dudes. Can only be good for AMD.
 

dude#73

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Not only that.

The competition commision in the US will have something to say about that.


Between AMD and Nvidia, they contribute roughly 82% of discreet video hardware in the world. :eek:

IBM would do good to purchase AMD. It would give them a path into other avenues than research (which they currently are HEAVY into). How about an IBM video chip in ur cellphone ? ;)

Lets not forget. IBM IS the computer. Very smart dudes. Can only be good for AMD.

True,the competition commision will definately be up in arms if Nvidia attempts to buy AMD.A good outcome would also be if IBM does buy them out,since for them,buying AMD will be pocket change and they'll pay the debt without batting an eyelid...:D
 

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There never was interest from NVIDIA to buy AMD past speculation. CEO has said several times that they have no vested interest int he x86 market as a direct competitor to Intel or AMD. NVIDIA could do nothing with AMD and it would cost them even if AMD started becoming successful.

We shouldn't just look at the net worth, stock price etc... Fabs, AMD has Fabs which are a very risky business. NVIDIA has non and rightfully so as they take between 3~5years to build and a further 2 years to reach optimal capacity... Cost several billions of dollars as well. The reason why ATI and NVIDIA were so successful is because they have none so there's no cost other than the per chip cost. They don't sponsor R&D at TSMC or anything like that. They pay per chip and charge their AIB's per chip.

It's for the same reason that AMD said a long time ago that GPU manufacture would never move in house to AMD's FABS but will continue at TSMC and other places.
NVIDIA is a visual computing company 1st and everything else a distant 2nd. Anything they can't directly benefit from in the short to medium term is of no interest.
 

dude#73

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There never was interest from NVIDIA to buy AMD past speculation. CEO has said several times that they have no vested interest int he x86 market as a direct competitor to Intel or AMD. NVIDIA could do nothing with AMD and it would cost them even if AMD started becoming successful.

We shouldn't just look at the net worth, stock price etc... Fabs, AMD has Fabs which are a very risky business. NVIDIA has non and rightfully so as they take between 3~5years to build and a further 2 years to reach optimal capacity... Cost several billions of dollars as well. The reason why ATI and NVIDIA were so successful is because they have none so there's no cost other than the per chip cost. They don't sponsor R&D at TSMC or anything like that. They pay per chip and charge their AIB's per chip.

It's for the same reason that AMD said a long time ago that GPU manufacture would never move in house to AMD's FABS but will continue at TSMC and other places.
NVIDIA is a visual computing company 1st and everything else a distant 2nd. Anything they can't directly benefit from in the short to medium term is of no interest.

Omgwtf?!
WOW!Dude,did you by any chance study to become a lawyer/market anylist;)
Nevertheless,good point(but I read somewhere that nvidia is already working on a 45nm cpu to compete with amd/ati)(coz apparently intel is working on their own gpu's...)
 
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