The FNB dream team who built Bank Zero

[Willie Trombone]

If you wanted to.
I don't want to however.
Are you done measuring who has the biggest cock?
I could send you a photo of mine if you send me your number.

LMAO with the way you're being touchy today, no chance
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NO TOUCHY!!!


For the record, I think we agree that it's not an expensive endeavor and wasn't designed to wow.
So we're punting the same point here.

 

[|tera|]

LMAO with the way you're being touchy today, no chance
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NO TOUCHY!!!


For the record, I think we agree that it's not an expensive endeavor and wasn't designed to wow.
So we're punting the same point here.

I am a bit touchy today, you ae right.
I'm not invalidating your input. You know what you are talking about here and I've got a lot to learn.
I've just made it easier on my self to learn the basics and go from there.

Apologies for my rudeness
All programming/markup/scripting languages give me the creeps

 

[RudderVator]

Should've poached their web developer but, then again, the FNB website is terrible as well.

+9000

 

[Napalm2880]

The problem with making assumptions like this is that you often have no idea what you're talking about.

It was not an assumption, it was my opinion.

I've never built a "disruptor" bank but if I were to do it, I wouldn't hire all my staff from a traditional bank. It's like expecting a 747 pilot to re-train as a fighter pilot. Sure, they know a lot about flying airplanes and they could probably do it, but it doesn't necessarily make them the best fit for the role.

What I can tell you from experience is that it's very difficult taking bank staff in their 30s, 40s and 50s, who have worked on mainframes at the bank since their early 20s, and teach them about virtualization, containerization, microservices, agile, dev-ops, etc.

 

[Swa]

Only because it's bare bones. At least it uses jquery / bootstrap. It's a place for info, little more. As a result, it's lightning fast, but as far as I can see, all the info is there.
I am all for informational and simple when it comes to banking, especially if it means lower bank charges.

But here's my pet peeve

Request statements older than 3 months R10 / statement

Nah thanks.
My bank statements take up next to NO storage, and storage costs are cheap.

It's not really about storage costs. They have to store the information as part of regulation. It's not something that should be charged for period. Another no from me is the lack of a website. It seems they're so cheap because they've cut features. I smell another Easy Equities here, perhaps with better service or perhaps not.

 

[Sinbad]

It was not an assumption, it was my opinion.

I've never built a "disruptor" bank but if I were to do it, I wouldn't hire all my staff from a traditional bank. It's like expecting a 747 pilot to re-train as a fighter pilot. Sure, they know a lot about flying airplanes and they could probably do it, but it doesn't necessarily make them the best fit for the role.

What I can tell you from experience is that it's very difficult taking bank staff in their 30s, 40s and 50s, who have worked on mainframes at the bank since their early 20s, and teach them about virtualization, containerization, microservices, agile, dev-ops, etc.

Devops is commodity. Banking is niche knowledge.

 

[Hamster]

The problem with hiring people from the traditional banks is that they:
1. Have "questionable" experience in providing good customer service
2. The other problem is that they have very little experience with the latest technologies and software development methodologies.

The people from Nedbank went on to build SARS and then went on to build Discovery Bank

And SARS was doing automatically scalable "microservices" before the term microservice was even coined.

 

[randomcat]

"Built" is a strong word. Some of their devs are probably on MyBB, thinking these fukkers did jack.

 

[Pho3nix]

Devops is commodity. Banking is niche knowledge.

Basically this

 

[Pho3nix]

It was not an assumption, it was my opinion.

I've never built a "disruptor" bank but if I were to do it, I wouldn't hire all my staff from a traditional bank. It's like expecting a 747 pilot to re-train as a fighter pilot. Sure, they know a lot about flying airplanes and they could probably do it, but it doesn't necessarily make them the best fit for the role.

What I can tell you from experience is that it's very difficult taking bank staff in their 30s, 40s and 50s, who have worked on mainframes at the bank since their early 20s, and teach them about virtualization, containerization, microservices, agile, dev-ops, etc.

You'd be surprised

 

[stoymigo]

It was not an assumption, it was my opinion.

I've never built a "disruptor" bank but if I were to do it, I wouldn't hire all my staff from a traditional bank. It's like expecting a 747 pilot to re-train as a fighter pilot. Sure, they know a lot about flying airplanes and they could probably do it, but it doesn't necessarily make them the best fit for the role.

What I can tell you from experience is that it's very difficult taking bank staff in their 30s, 40s and 50s, who have worked on mainframes at the bank since their early 20s, and teach them about virtualization, containerization, microservices, agile, dev-ops, etc.

Which non-traditional bank would u hire from, fnb seems traditional and non-traditional iykwim

 

[Hamster]

You guys realise you are arguing with somebody who thinks he knows better than the former CEO of FNB with stakes in Rain and DCX10.

 

[stoymigo]

You guys realise you are arguing with somebody who thinks he knows better than the former CEO of FNB with stakes in Rain and DCX10.

True, it just seemed so absurd that i had to ask.

General question, new banks don't build software from the ground up or do they?

 

[Hamster]

True, it just seemed so absurd that i had to ask.

General question, new banks don't build software from the ground up or do they?

Can't speak for Bank Zero but I know another bank first went with a suite of off the shelve solutions (SAP "Bank" if memory serves) to get through the red tape of getting a banking license and then customise/replace from there.

But there are (were ) guys on the forum that'll know more.

 

[Sinbad]

Can't speak for Bank Zero but I know another bank first went with a suite of off the shelve solutions (SAP "Bank" if memory serves) to get through the red tape of getting a banking license and then customise/replace from there.

But there are (were ) guys on the forum that'll know more.

Rip

 

[AirWolf]

If you bank extensively with FNB, both personal and business, you would have long come to the conclusion, that is the last 5 years FNB have been moving in reverse with the "updates and innovation". Something that took 10 minutes 10 years ago, now takes weeks.

Every website change makes using their online platform more painful. Things that should be in the forefront are buried several menus down.

Their calender selector doesn't even allow you to click any days from a previous month showing at the start of next month.

On a statement page, date selectors should be at the top. No, 2 menus in.

I'll try the new bank.

 

[Slegdehammer67]

I will use the old 'wait and see' approach before forming an opinion about this...

 

[Willie Trombone]

You guys realise you are arguing with somebody who thinks he knows better than the former CEO of FNB with stakes in Rain and DCX10.

...with stakes in Rain

 

[Swa]

...with stakes in Rain

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Also DCX10 doesn't inspire confidence in most.

 

[rodmur]

If their service is like FNB then the are going nowhere.