The Future of Wind Turbines. No Blades?

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It’s no longer surprising to encounter 100-foot pinwheels spinning in the breeze as you drive down the highway. But don’t get too comfortable with that view. A Spanish company called Vortex Bladeless is proposing a radical new way to generate wind energy that will once again upend what you see outside your car window.

Their idea is the Vortex, a bladeless wind turbine that looks like a giant rolled joint shooting into the sky. The Vortex has the same goals as conventional wind turbines: To turn breezes into kinetic energy that can be used as electricity. But it goes about it in an entirely different way.

Instead of capturing energy via the circular motion of a propeller, the Vortex takes advantage of what’s known as vorticity, an aerodynamic effect that produces a pattern of spinning vortices. Vorticity has long been considered the enemy of architects and engineers, who actively try to design their way around these whirlpools of wind. And for good reason: With enough wind, vorticity can lead to an oscillating motion in structures, which, in some cases, like the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, can cause their eventual collapse.

Where designers see danger, Vortex Bladeless’s founders—David Suriol, David Yáñez, and Raul Ingeniero—sees opportunity. “We said, ‘Why don’t we try to use this energy, not avoid it,’” Suriol says. The team started Vortex Bladeless in 2010 as a way to turn this vibrating energy into something productive.

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The Vortex’s shape was developed computationally to ensure the spinning wind (vortices) occurs synchronously along the entirety of the mast. “The swirls have to work together to achieve good performance,” Villarreal explains. In its current prototype, the elongated cone is made from a composite of fiberglass and carbon fiber, which allows the mast to vibrate as much as possible (an increase in mass reduces natural frequency). At the base of the cone are two rings of repelling magnets, which act as a sort of nonelectrical motor. When the cone oscillates one way, the repelling magnets pull it in the other direction, like a slight nudge to boost the mast’s movement regardless of wind speed. This kinetic energy is then converted into electricity via an alternator that multiplies the frequency of the mast’s oscillation to improve the energy-gathering efficiency.

Its makers boast the fact that there are no gears, bolts, or mechanically moving parts, which they say makes the Vortex cheaper to manufacture and maintain. The founders claim their Vortex Mini, which stands at around 41 feet tall, can capture up to 40 percent of the wind’s power during ideal conditions (this is when the wind is blowing at around 26 miles per hour). Based on field testing, the Mini ultimately captures 30 percent less than conventional wind turbines, but that shortcoming is compensated by the fact that you can put double the Vortex turbines into the same space as a propeller turbine.

The Vortex team says there are some clear advantages to their model: It’s less expensive to manufacture, totally silent, and safer for birds since there are no blades to fly into. Vortex Bladeless says its turbine would cost around 51 percent less than a traditional turbine whose major costs come from the blades and support system. Plus, Suriol says, it’s pretty cool-looking. “It looks like asparagus,” he says. “It’s much more natural.”

The company has already raised $1 million from private capital and government funding in Spain, and they have plans to close a round in the United States soon. There’s enough interest, Suriol says, that he fields upward of 200 emails a day from people inquiring about the turbine. Of course, the technology still has a ways to go. They’re hoping to have their first product, a 9-foot, 100-watt turbine that will be used in developing countries, ready before the end of the year. The Mini, it’s 41-foot counterpart, will be ready in a year.

For the time being, you’ll continue seeing pinwheels dotting the landscape, which Suriol is actually happy about. “We can’t say anything bad about conventional wind turbines; they’re great machines,” he says. “We’re just proposing a new way, a different way.”

http://www.wired.com/2015/05/future-wind-turbines-no-blades/?mbid=social_fb
 

Arthur

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Interesting. Hopefully it'll produce enough so we can get rid of those awful pin-wheels.
 

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a bladeless wind turbine that looks like a giant rolled joint shooting into the sky.

Imagine if Cheech saw one of those ... :D
 

Nerfherder

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Well that fixes one of the major problems with wind farms... wonder about the cost
 

itareanlnotani

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If they can *truly* bring Wind farms cheap costs down by 50% this is a game changer.

Wind is already the cheapest generation we have. Sure, its not efficient, but given that its roughly 2/3rd the cost of the next competitor, you can just build more units.
 

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Well that fixes one of the major problems with wind farms... wonder about the cost
Claimed to be cheaper.

Bit of googling suggests that its promising, but to early to say given the bold claims and no significant proof of concept. e.g. 100W is cool, but once make it bigger you're going to hit a new set of challenges. e.g. How to maintain something 100s meters high?
 

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Surely this tech would be better suited to do duty in the ocean,capturing the natural oscillating waves of the sea would be much more efficient,wonder why they haven't tried doing it there.
 

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Surely this tech would be better suited to do duty in the ocean,capturing the natural oscillating waves of the sea would be much more efficient,wonder why they haven't tried doing it there.
Too much friction imo
 

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This was in the news earlier this month, Vortex is very much active with Harvard in America since earlier this year when they initially received their capital outlay. They are carried by the Repsol Foundation Grant (Spanish government) and Spanish Angels (Spanish venture capitalists). This is their current goal:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/billtucker/2015/05/07/wind-power-without-the-mills/

The fly in this very cool ointment is that the technology is a proven concept and is currently is being tested and fine tuned in the field. This means we are about a year away from the reality of Vortex generated electricity. Initially, the co-founders were looking at large generating devices. That remains a longer-term goal but a much shorter range goal is a device of 4kW Vortex that would be about 13 meters tall (40’) and weigh about 220lbs. The company sees this generator being used in conjunction with solar generation for homes that are either off the grid or want to be off the grid. They are also developing a 100W device that will stand about 3 meters (9’) tall weighing about 22lbs. It is named the Vortex Atlantis and the company believes it can be used in off-grid areas to bring power to third world/developing villages where power could be a matter of life and again, used with solar generation. Those devices are forecast to be on the market in roughly a year.A 1MW generator is currently forecast to be about 3 years from market.

I would like to see their patents and how it will be holding up... Reason being that three tech giants are the leaders in this vertical, where Siemens are carrying the larger stake and it is possible that these entities are developing something similar, everything is non-disclosed, but I attended a seminar last year where an case study was done very close to what Vortex is doing.
 

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At the base of the cone are two rings of repelling magnets, which act as a sort of nonelectrical motor. When the cone oscillates one way, the repelling magnets pull it in the other direction, like a slight nudge to boost the mast’s movement regardless of wind speed. This kinetic energy is then converted into electricity via an alternator that multiplies the frequency of the mast’s oscillation to improve the energy-gathering efficiency.
I cannot make real sense out of this and I found nothing on their overdesigned webpage which looks great and contains zero hard information what always a sign for caution.

So they have a magnetic spring at the bottom which enhances the oscillation in special the startup. Good. This spring is a magic non-electric generator. Pure nonsense. Add an alternator without moving parts which steps up frequency of vibration. No idea what this might be. I found "piezoelectric" on the spanish version but a piezoelectric MW generator? Unheard of.
Last not least they say this vibrates total silent what is strange the frequency would have to be either very low or very high to be in the unhearable range. Otherwise those will be a hell of a noisy. For they multiply the frequency the oscillation would have to be low what says to get energy out of this the force involved has to be high and additionally the cone must be very rigid and as little weight as possible what makes me believe this is to good to be true as already told for such a high force/low frequency setup the waves of the ocean would be much more appealing.

I think this is a pipedream.
But would love to be proven wrong.

Information I used to get this opinion:
Low Power Energy Harvesting with Piezoelectric Generator
Energy Harvesting for MEMS.pdf
mems vibrational micro power generation
The last article tells of piezogenerators working at 2Hz being available as engineering samples - micro power wat makes me believe this is not a known working technique for MW not even for 100W.
 

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This is awesome looking technology. I hope this works out. I could get 100% behind something like this.
 

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Surely this tech would be better suited to do duty in the ocean,capturing the natural oscillating waves of the sea would be much more efficient,wonder why they haven't tried doing it there.

Salt corrodes the hell out of anything...
 
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