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Johand

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Sure, but Cool Ideas is a fibre only ISP and they still have a 25ms average latency. Just seemed high, but could be because of lots of tests when there are problems skewing the results. And like you said, which server the speedtest gets run on as well. On the MyBB speedtest I see my latency is 5ms, so it should be the Durban server, if I test on speedtest.net to a Cape Town server it is 32ms. Didn't expect it to be so high.
Light in fibre propagates about 1 km in 5 microseconds to put it differently it takes 5 ms to do 1000km and latency is double that (light need to travel there and back). Assuming cable between jhb and Cape Town is 1400 km means that fibre latency is 14ms with ~5ms switching latency (from all my test) .

From Durban to Joburg say 700km, Jhb to Cape Town say 1400 = 2100km meaning you have at least 21ms latency due to fiber length, and 10ms (~ 5ms x twice number of hops)switching latency comes to 31ms.
 

r00igev@@r

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Sure, but Cool Ideas is a fibre only ISP and they still have a 25ms average latency. Just seemed high, but could be because of lots of tests when there are problems skewing the results. And like you said, which server the speedtest gets run on as well. On the MyBB speedtest I see my latency is 5ms, so it should be the Durban server, if I test on speedtest.net to a Cape Town server it is 32ms. Didn't expect it to be so high.
Yes, that latency figure is a problem. Had the same thoughts.

I think it is the outlier data points. One test of 1000ms will take result in another fifty 5ms tests being required to bring the average latency down to 25ms.

This with the fact that people with a poor experience are more likely to test more often, I have also noticed that there was a bucket load of malware out there, especially crypto mining on browsers that causes havoc on the CPU and thus the test results.
 

r00igev@@r

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At iBurst we had a kuk wireless product but we made an effort with support. Cannot understand why Rain is doing such a piss poor job at support.
 

Mikael

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To the writer, Rudolph - why has Cybersmart been excluded from the rankings?
 

deweyzeph

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At iBurst we had a kuk wireless product but we made an effort with support. Cannot understand why Rain is doing such a piss poor job at support.

iBurst was a life saver at the time (2009 for me). It was pretty much the only affordable wireless option in those days.
 

TheRoDent

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Sure, but Cool Ideas is a fibre only ISP and they still have a 25ms average latency. Just seemed high, but could be because of lots of tests when there are problems skewing the results. And like you said, which server the speedtest gets run on as well. On the MyBB speedtest I see my latency is 5ms, so it should be the Durban server, if I test on speedtest.net to a Cape Town server it is 32ms. Didn't expect it to be so high.

The MyBB Speedtest measures latency by doing a round-trip HTTP/WebSocket transaction and measuring the latency of the round-trip HTTP request/response.

That means it goes IP->TCP->HTTP->WebsocketEncapsulation->WebServer->SpeedTestCode->WebServer->WebSocketEncapsulation->HTTP->TCP->IP.

In fact the websocket request is ws://speedtest.mybroadband.co.za:8443/ws?latency

That's quite a lot of overhead.

So, the speedtest.co.za "latency" is "web request/websocket latency".

Not ICMP, or normal UDP latency.
 

furpile

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The MyBB Speedtest measures latency by doing a round-trip HTTP/WebSocket transaction and measuring the latency of the round-trip HTTP request/response.

That means it goes IP->TCP->HTTP->WebsocketEncapsulation->WebServer->SpeedTestCode->WebServer->WebSocketEncapsulation->HTTP->TCP->IP.

In fact the websocket request is ws://speedtest.mybroadband.co.za:8443/ws?latency

That's quite a lot of overhead.

So, the speedtest.co.za "latency" is "web request/websocket latency".

Not ICMP, or normal UDP latency.
I don't understand half of what you are saying but I appreciate the detailed reply
 

BS-Narrative

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is this a paid list, VOX on this list is the biggest joke... Rather check hello peter, their reviews are more accurate.
 
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