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Dan C
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Selectors or captain is to blame. They knew spin bowling is a win on these wickets.
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Selectors or captain is to blame. They knew spin bowling is a win on these wickets.
falcon786
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He is there on his reputation in tests,truth is he is a terrible limited overs bowler he couldn't even defend some runs against NZ in the ODI cup and lost us the game.
The selectors and Faf are busy faffing around stupidly easy decisions like whether to play our three top batsman and neglecting the actual issues....wiese with his slower ball is far more effective in Indian conditions than Steyn.
Also Faf woke up too late and didn't keep any mental pressure on England after they lost wickets he allowed them to accumulate singles easily to rebuild.onlynin in the last two over he tried it.
Terrible captaincy today and poor bowling costed us this game.But more poor captaincy because even good balls were going for runs so bowlers didn't know what to bowl and became erratic instead.
Yeah the batting selection this game was spot and definitely our best attack.The bowling needs to include wiese.Abbots yorkers were quite effective when he bowled them so if he can do that he'll do well.
As for Steyn in these conditions and in limited overs his time is up.Selectors need to choose on merit and suitability of the pitch not reputation of the great bowler that he was in the past.
You damn right!
His record i t20 internationals is actually very good. Yes he didn't defend well vs nz in the 50 world cup but he did defend 7 vs them in a final over in the last 20/20 world cup.
People only remember his poor days thought. So continue calling for his head. After wiese conceded 58 in 4 vs aus people were for his head now he should be the saviour...Steyn will come back, he had a very bad day today. it happens.
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Had Abbott held that catch, Hales out for 0, England 25-1, that might have tempered their approach a little in the opening couple of overs. Might have even given Faf the confidence to bring on Tahir in the first 6. We lost the game in the power play.
Our quicks were never going to threaten on this deck and they are not likely to on any of the Indian wickets. If Boult and Southee can sit out for the likes of Santner and Sodhi then Dale or Morris can sit out for Aaron.
NZ tactical awareness is just phenomenal. They seem to have such a profound understanding of the conditions and of their own limitations. It was a huge gamble to leave out Boult and Southee but they 2 from 2 against 2 of the best T20 sides in world cricket!!
Domingo on the other hand is absolutely clueless. He hasn't the technical acumen to identify weaknesses in the team, let alone fix them. With the talent at his disposal this squad of players should be dominating white ball cricket.
For England Root is immense. He's every bit as good as AB if not better!! And I mean that with all sincerity. Outkast used to sing his praises and I often thought quietly to myself, wtf you talking about. I've never paid him much attention but watching him this summer, the man is a legend in the making!! MASSIVE talent!!
Anyway, guys need to regroup now. At least our net run rate should be favourable. We should get a decent win against the Afghans and then we must knock over the WI's. Sri Lanka looking weak. Not the side they used to be so we need to do the business against them too. Top 2 teams progress. Every game now though, becomes a knock out. We strive in knock out situations.... said no one ever of the Proteas cricket team...
Our quicks were never going to threaten on this deck and they are not likely to on any of the Indian wickets. If Boult and Southee can sit out for the likes of Santner and Sodhi then Dale or Morris can sit out for Aaron.
NZ tactical awareness is just phenomenal. They seem to have such a profound understanding of the conditions and of their own limitations. It was a huge gamble to leave out Boult and Southee but they 2 from 2 against 2 of the best T20 sides in world cricket!!
Domingo on the other hand is absolutely clueless. He hasn't the technical acumen to identify weaknesses in the team, let alone fix them. With the talent at his disposal this squad of players should be dominating white ball cricket.
For England Root is immense. He's every bit as good as AB if not better!! And I mean that with all sincerity. Outkast used to sing his praises and I often thought quietly to myself, wtf you talking about. I've never paid him much attention but watching him this summer, the man is a legend in the making!! MASSIVE talent!!
Anyway, guys need to regroup now. At least our net run rate should be favourable. We should get a decent win against the Afghans and then we must knock over the WI's. Sri Lanka looking weak. Not the side they used to be so we need to do the business against them too. Top 2 teams progress. Every game now though, becomes a knock out. We strive in knock out situations.... said no one ever of the Proteas cricket team...
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The man's a freak!! He is to cricket what Usain Bolt is to athletics... The day he finds consistency is the day the rest of us might as well pack our bags and head home...
Had the umpire given Miller out LBW first ball!!!!!!!!!!
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It would have brought Morris to the crease and then you had have been in real trouble...
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Domingo must go
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No choke. You'd win 99℅ of matches if you score over 220 batting first.
One bowler got mercilessly plastered and that set the tone for victory.
Pity it was Steyn. Think he's still injured.
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Other bowlers were frantically trying to patch a burst hemorrhage from the rupture caused by Steyn.
Further complicated by the fact that he got taken off after only 2 overs.
He's fellow opening quick KG bowled all 4 and he's supposed to be one of the world's best.
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A few of the wides went for four which counts towards the total wides displayed. We "only" bowled 10 wides, but 20 runs came off them. Still K@k though.
Since the Australia series, it seems the the plan is to bowl full and wide at the death. But we rarely getting it right at the moment.
The yorker worked just fine though, problem is not getting it right is a full toss or half volley in the arc to dissappear
Well in last night's situation the yorker was pretty much the only effective ball. Instead of bowling those stupid bouncers that either got hit to the boundary or went for 5 the okes should've realised that 4x good yorkers and 2x getting it wrong is better than the *** they were dishing up.
Hell even 3 yorkers and 3 full tosses would of been better. Atleast when it goes wrong theres a possibility the batsman stuffs up and gets caught (stokes). It was poor onfield judgement from faf and the bowlers
Abbot was bowling the yorker(the times he tried it) so well in his first spell and got a wicket bowling full. I think in his second over after bowling a few yorkers I just knew he was going to try bowling it short and yep, he bowled a short ball and got carted for six by Roy I think. Why do they do this? Keep it simple FFS. I've never in my years of watching cricket seen anyone hit a well bowled yorker for six. Bowlers in modern cricket try and be too cute imo instead of just focusing on bowling a good yorker.
Why does it seem impossible to expect a professional bowler to bowl 4 or 5 good yorkers in a over? I agree with what Kepler said after the game. In the first 4/5 overs Steyn needs to bowl his test length and try and nick off the openers to the slips. If he gets hit for boundaries bowling that length fine, bowl it again.
We bowl the short ball far too often with very very limited success. The bouncer should be a surprise delivery not two or three per over.
Why does it seem impossible to expect a professional bowler to bowl 4 or 5 good yorkers in a over? I agree with what Kepler said after the game. In the first 4/5 overs Steyn needs to bowl his test length and try and nick off the openers to the slips. If he gets hit for boundaries bowling that length fine, bowl it again.
We bowl the short ball far too often with very very limited success. The bouncer should be a surprise delivery not two or three per over.