The Ivy and Alec show

stoke

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BWAAAHAHAHAH
Infraco vs Sentech?

Meanwhile the teklom rape continues.
I'd like to see both of these "leaders" explaining the teklom situation to us again.
 

ToxicBunny

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*mutter*

When will these morons learn, just give the market a chance and don't protect the players... Inefficient companies will die, efficient ones will flourish and the prices will come down.
 

UglyKidJoe

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Competition Commission's Tembinkosi Bonakele

Now Tembinkosi makes sense. Give this dude more power! This is the kind of thinking we like:

Quote:
"A duopoly isn't ideal: economic theory tells us it doesn't bring the prices down. Other companies need fair access to spoil the party," says Bonakele, who is also adamant that the market, not the court, is the answer to ensure that operators behave in a competitive manner.

Geez, hasn't the govt embarrased themselves enough by now? Get rid of anticompetitive bureaucracy already
 

Axis

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These monkeys have worked themselves into a corner. Let's see what they do to get out of this one.
 

fskmh

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A POTENTIAL political punch-up between Public Enterprises Minister Alec Erwin and Communications Minister Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri - or at least between the officials who answer to each of them - is on the cards.

Hmm, I reckon Alec Erwin is a few doughnuts short of Ivy's weight division so it'll have to be a tag-team match-up between their underlings :p:D.
 

AirWolf

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Why does everything go pear-shaped in the telecomms industry? Why do we have to have all these legal wrangles and unnnecessary delays? :confused:

The bottom line (which most of you have realised already) is that Telkom's dominant position will only be strengthened:( Where ever politicians are involved, the stink will follow :rolleyes:
 

ic

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Why does everything go pear-shaped in the telecomms industry?
An easy question to answer: Poison Ivy herself looks pear-shaped, and since Poison Ivy only wants SA' telecoms sector monopolised by people that look like her, well it explains why the telecoms industry is pear-shaped...
 

dominic

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rip infraco
go back to plan a and lease the facilities to neotel for a set period - can be done simply and easily + its what you promised them in the first place + it doesn't require another fscking state owned enterprise in the telecoms space
 

antowan

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Icasa is feeling edgy, if not miffed. Icasa chairman Paris Mashile argues that all licences have to be issued in terms of the processes set out by the ECA. That gives Icasa exclusive jurisdiction over licensing. It expressly prohibits any exclusionary rights for licence holders.

Shame, now Icasa is left out of the loop and cannot force backpocket deals? Could that be the reason? This is Paris when he heard the news...

BTW, I do agree with Dom. I would prefer a total market deregulation to enable anybody who can to start providing services. I swear there are local guys who can give both Telkom and Neotel a run for their money on an innovation basis alone...
 
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Dastrix

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An easy question to answer: Poison Ivy herself looks pear-shaped, and since Poison Ivy only wants SA' telecoms sector monopolised by people that look like her, well it explains why the telecoms industry is pear-shaped...

:D ROFL!!! Quote of the year!!!!!!!!!!
 

ic

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rip infraco
go back to plan a and lease the facilities to neotel for a set period - can be done simply and easily + its what you promised them in the first place + it doesn't require another fscking state owned enterprise in the telecoms space
Infraco sets alarm bells ringing in my mind: a parastatal extension of guavamint given the huge responsibility of properly managing a national fibre optic [i.e. broadband] network, that South Africans will potentially become highly dependent on, when left in the hands of incompetent civil servants, is a really bad idea...'sorry NeeTel, we are all on our tea break until 15:30, we might consider fixing the transmission failure after 16:30 when we are all on our way home...'

What NeeTel needs, is full responsibility and maintenance control over the national network it is supposed to be using - even if NeeTel does not own the physical network, it can rent it from guavamint for several years, and be responsible for maintaining that network & fixing any problems that NeeTel customers experience when using that network.

Any network operator that does not have control over the majority of the local network that it uses, is effectively not in control at all and is powerless to do anything but wait for the upstream network operator(s) to sort out minor to major problems.
 

AirWolf

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Infraco sets alarm bells ringing in my mind: a parastatal extension of guavamint given the huge responsibility of properly managing a national fibre optic [i.e. broadband] network, that South Africans will potentially become highly dependent on, when left in the hands of incompetent civil servants, is a really bad idea...'sorry NeeTel, we are all on our tea break until 15:30, we might consider fixing the transmission failure after 16:30 when we are all on our way home...'

What NeeTel needs, is full responsibility and maintenance control over the national network it is supposed to be using - even if NeeTel does not own the physical network, it can rent it from guavamint for several years, and be responsible for maintaining that network & fixing any problems that NeeTel customers experience when using that network.

Any network operator that does not have control over the majority of the local network that it uses, is effectively not in control at all and is powerless to do anything but wait for the upstream network operator(s) to sort out minor to major problems.

Very similar to the situation that Virgin is in [using Cell Cs infrastructure]. When users call the Virgin call centre, they either have no idea about any problem or "will-refer-your-problem-to-Cell-C". Both these options mean there is no estimated time for problem resolution:rolleyes:
 

ic

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Very similar to the situation that Virgin is in [using Cell Cs infrastructure]. When users call the Virgin call centre, they either have no idea about any problem or "will-refer-your-problem-to-Cell-C". Both these options mean there is no estimated time for problem resolution:rolleyes:
Or the same as Vodacom relying on Telkodemonopolies-SAIX as the wired infrastructure network operator - Vodacom has to wait for Telkodemonopolies, but then so do MTN and CellC and everyone else whilst waiting for Poison Ivy and Alec to finish their pissing contest...:rolleyes:
 
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