Jordan Peterson is a pseudo intellectual charlatan and there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian ethic. And anybody thinking that the enlightenment was a rejection of some non existing ethic doesn't know what they are talking about.The problem with JBP and other Christian Judaism apologists is that they try to attribute the enlightenment as some sort of achievement of a Judeo-Christian ethic . When the thruth is that the enlightenment was a rejection of it
Well, let's maintain focus. We were talking about Christianity. How is Christianity incompatible with enlightenment values? Considering its survived 500 years of it quite well.
Which part of that lines up with christianity?The Enlightenment was a late 17th- and 18th-century intellectual movement emphasizing reason, individualism, skepticism, and science. Enlightenment thinking helped give rise to deism, which is the belief that God exists, but does not interact supernaturally with the universe.
I found the maps of meaning lectures interesting and currently listening to the audio book version. Tried listening to the personality lectures but found the first lecture really boring.Yup that personality series was interesting. I've forgotten most of it though, maybe time to listen to it again.
The book some really forced Bible quotes that go on for too long. Seems though you reading the book through the lens of criticising the SJWsThis thread has devolved mostly into insults.
It makes it hard to have a discussion, but I would like to hear some opinions especially from his critics on here, regarding the 12 rules in his book.
Can we at least try to discuss the subject and not it's author? Any criticisms against him(and his critics for that matter) has been voiced as nauseam already.
Rule 1 Stand up straight with your shoulders back.
There are hierarchies into which we fall.
Yes they're not fair but it is better(for you) to face the world/your problems than to adopt a victim stance.
Seems like a grey area. Logically speaking, we need structure/belief/culture in order to trust, act and collaborate effectively. However we also need openness in order to update our set of beliefs to progress and evolve. It is a tricky balancing act where both dogmatic and progressive proponents clash. Christianity brought structure and collaboration, but it also became too dogmatic (As with any belief system).Well, let's maintain focus. We were talking about Christianity. How is Christianity incompatible with enlightenment values? Considering its survived 500 years of it quite well.
5. "doing unto others as you would have them do unto you" or "loving your neighbor as yourself" has nothing to do with being nice.To sacrifice ourselves to God (to the highest good, if you like) does not mean to suffer silently and willingly when some person or organization demands more from us, consistently, than is offered in return.
That means we are supporting tyranny, and allowing ourselves to be treated like slaves.
It is not virtuous to be victimized by a bully, even if that bully is oneself.
That's a really stupid assumption as well a stupid argument to back up your claim. The book at it's core is a self help book it's obivious to me that you are projecting your beliefs on SJWs onto the book. I'd suggest you read "Maps Of Meaning" it's a more in-depth scientific look at many of the topics found in ”12 Rules For Life"Once again, I'm guessing no one has actually read it though, and source most of their comments online.
The immediate mention of the biblical references seem to indicate it.
Some interesting NON BIBLICAL points in chapter 1 then:
1 Price's law
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This really interests me. I did not think much of it until I saw the Top 40 shelf in a musica the other day.
I'm now curious to know how many of the CD sales are from that shelf vs the rest of the store.
And I'm guessing price's law applies to it as well.
2 Serotonin, and it's effects on the brain.
Reading up on wikipedia:
"Serotonin pathways projecting into the limbic forebrain are also involved in emotional processing, with decreased serotonergic activity resulting in decreased cognition and an emotional bias towards negative stimuli.".
This is why I concluded that is better(for you) to face your problems than to play the victim. link
Nothing to do with SJW's, it's about the effect it has on my brain.
In my case this also means to limit my exposure to the bad news so prevalent in SA. It drains the energy right out of me.
3 Positive feedback loop and how it can have detrimental effects on you e.g alcoholism
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