The month of July in review (so far)

slimothy

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I hope I don't get cut off before I click the submit button on this one heh,

I've decided to document the month so far so people who weren't aware of some of the weirdness could be educated.

OK the month started on a Friday, on the Thursday night some users were eagerly awaiting thier 1mbit speeds back and as the new month came in at midnight started downloading. The throttling was lifted at different times for everyone with the earliest being about 5 minutes after midnight and latest being at about 1AM. The speeds were amazing, I've been on the network for a while and I've never seen it liek that, i got 1.5mbit (true 1.5mbit) for a few minutes and everyone was downloading at speeds over 1mbit.

In the morning the dream was over and the speeds were sluggish to say the least, across the network people were reporting some of the worst speeds they've ever seen. The problem was put down to all the users being unthrottled and hitting thier downloads heavily at the same time, although it seemed like a likely explanation even people on empty towers had speed problems which raised questions. As the month went on the day speeds stayed bad but for the Pretoria users (and some others) the speed was slower than dial up and the problem persists to this day even though congestion should be sorted out.

The first weekend, my bandwidth wasn't recorded, I disconnected a few times and it still said I had used less than I had, I didn't say anything for obvious reason. A couple days later DaveBuchannan made a thread stating the same, a few users posted in there, he requested it be deleted so some of you may have not seen it. He did so for the same reason I never posted about it, we take every inch, and why shouldn't we. BUT the problem is sorted now and its safe to assume alot of users did a GB or two when they found out, is that enough to get WBS to cut users off or make slow down to save money?

The speeds reported were around 6.4kbit a second (which as you can see is freakishly similar to 64kbit we should be getting), Roman found an interesting quirk, if you disconnected a few times (or sometimes once was all that was needed) the speed problem was sorted out, he put it down to the bandwidth manager, which I agree with as all signs pointed directly at the bandwidth manager 'glue' software coded by WBS that links the database with all your session data in and the intelligent firewall (database holds the data and intelligent firewall shapes connections based on rules the bandwidth manager sets).

A few days in the month 5 towers went down for long periods... twice. The next week Pretoria and Sandton went down, WBS said they changed switches.

5 days into the month I was capped and got cut off from the net, I made a thread about it, the following day I recieved 3 PMs in my inbox about people who had the same problem and felt forced to buy more bandwidth to sort the problem 9even though when unthrottled they no longer got 1mbit, it was the only way they could surf at all). The next day I called WBS and was told by an un-happy employee I was the victim of a policy decision
from high up. The same day i received credible information in my inbox from a respected member of the myADSL community, so I was sure it wasnt just me at that point.

Kei, mentioned he had to change his 'sweet spot' that had been fine for months, but now only received 60% (at best) signal, compared to 100%.

So far WBS has denied all problems, and has said it hasn't changed anything, although admitted it was in the proccess of drafting a new acceptable user policy.

Interesting things to note, last month WBS spent alot of time playing with the bandwidth manager (the thing that throttles us), i can't tell if they've done it this month because I get cut off after being capped.
 
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Simple Twist Of Fate

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Good summary Slimo!!
You rox dude.
What amazes me was the WBS response to the IT WEB article where he mentions people who peviosly "abused" ... but he goes on to say that they had been communicated with.?? but i recieved no corrspondance wrt that issue , neither from tradepage or WBS.
fair usage is still some idea somwhere in someones nut on the 4400th floor, no-one knows where to draw a usage/abusage line.
See my post re: bandwidth value...
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=23643
I still belive that that is our/my entitlement ie :19.775 GB what else do you do with 24/7 internet?
 

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Slim you summed it up pretty well, and the same applies to my side except it can't be contention where I am, so it has to be the bandwidth manager, or maybe the new wbs manager. :rolleyes:
 

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Had an episode of "Capped although i am not capped" tonight. Bloody irritating!! Phoned the helpdesk to get the official line before having a word with Mr Parvin over the state of his network. Officially their is nothing wrong on the network although the kind gent on the helpdesk did say that he had had a number of calls complaining of the same thing. Unfortunately work got a bit busy so could not make the call and now miraculously all is well and speed is back.

WBS is the bandwidth saved by having everyone "capped" by default and only uncaping them after checking the database worth the bad feelings being generated when the system falls over?
 

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All the reasons i canceled!

WBS think that there customers have no power...well the company i work for HAD 5 different iburst connections including the one i was given. How, because of me, every one of those connections except for one has been canceled and the modems returned.

Maybe 4 X less pay may not seem alot for those bastards, but hey its all gona add up sooner or later!
 

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So far my speeds have been fine this month. I hit my cap on the 4th or so and since then I have been getting around 6kB/s steadily.

Last night it seems that the throttle fell over, since I woke up this morning to discover that my download list ( 2 GB ) completed itself during the night.
 
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Blah Blah Blah

This is Typical. AT midnight on the first day of the month you guys are all prepared with your dl managers and a list of 100gig files. Its no wonder IBurst caps your @ss. By 2pm you have probably reached your 3 gigs.........

Then the next step for you winers is to jump onto this forum and B!ch like children who lost their toys. MY goodness, you are the saddest bunch of 12 year olds I have ever come across.

You are the reason the rest of us have to put up with the IBurst Capping and Shaping. They have gotto do something to prevent you people from flooding the entire SAIX bandwidth pipe.

Why not give up trying to dl every little mermaid special eddition rip and you might consider actually buying one or two for your self. You have run out of the excuse that you are dl'ing "LINUX distro's" long ago buddy.

Actually - why not just go over to ADSL, and leave the network for those that are actually wanting to surf. Thats all I do, really it is

No really !
 

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Daveogg said:
Had an episode of "Capped although i am not capped" tonight. Bloody irritating!! Phoned the helpdesk to get the official line before having a word with Mr Parvin over the state of his network. Officially their is nothing wrong on the network although the kind gent on the helpdesk did say that he had had a number of calls complaining of the same thing. Unfortunately work got a bit busy so could not make the call and now miraculously all is well and speed is back.

WBS is the bandwidth saved by having everyone "capped" by default and only uncaping them after checking the database worth the bad feelings being generated when the system falls over?
yeah its funny how it works out like that sometimes.
 

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Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
This is Typical. AT midnight on the first day of the month you guys are all prepared with your dl managers and a list of 100gig files. Its no wonder IBurst caps your @ss. By 2pm you have probably reached your 3 gigs.........

Then the next step for you winers is to jump onto this forum and B!ch like children who lost their toys. MY goodness, you are the saddest bunch of 12 year olds I have ever come across.

You are the reason the rest of us have to put up with the IBurst Capping and Shaping. They have gotto do something to prevent you people from flooding the entire SAIX bandwidth pipe.

Why not give up trying to dl every little mermaid special eddition rip and you might consider actually buying one or two for your self. You have run out of the excuse that you are dl'ing "LINUX distro's" long ago buddy.

Actually - why not just go over to ADSL, and leave the network for those that are actually wanting to surf. Thats all I do, really it is

No really !

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the service you are PAYING for with hard earned money. If I want to download my PAYED for 3gig in 10s, thats my business. If the iburst techies (most probably you) were up to the job it certainly wouldn't affect anybody else.
 

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Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
This is Typical. AT midnight on the first day of the month you guys are all prepared with your dl managers and a list of 100gig files. Its no wonder IBurst caps your @ss. By 2pm you have probably reached your 3 gigs.........

Then the next step for you winers is to jump onto this forum and B!ch like children who lost their toys. MY goodness, you are the saddest bunch of 12 year olds I have ever come across.

You are the reason the rest of us have to put up with the IBurst Capping and Shaping. They have gotto do something to prevent you people from flooding the entire SAIX bandwidth pipe.

Why not give up trying to dl every little mermaid special eddition rip and you might consider actually buying one or two for your self. You have run out of the excuse that you are dl'ing "LINUX distro's" long ago buddy.

Actually - why not just go over to ADSL, and leave the network for those that are actually wanting to surf. Thats all I do, really it is

No really !


I have allot to say to you but I'll keep it short.

You are an ignorant, you lack manners and respect. You are gonna Pissoff allot of people, just because of that.1st impressions always lasts, and you didn't make a good one...It seems ur an unhappy person, if that is because you don't like yourself, just post your addy here and we'll come beat you up, free of charge.
 
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Yes, agreed.
BUT - You complain about the 64k, after reaching 3 gigs. Thats what you paid for mate the 3 Gigs.

Now I cant dl the latest Jamie Oliver Kookbook because of you children.

As for Being a IBurst cronie, SSSSHHHAADUUUPP. Dont insult me like that. I do have a little pride.

Just a little.

PS: Bic Pen - I would send my addie, but Im almost at the 3 gig cliff, and I am saving for Bambie release 2 :)
 
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Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
This is Typical. AT midnight on the first day of the month you guys are all prepared with your dl managers and a list of 100gig files. Its no wonder IBurst caps your @ss. By 2pm you have probably reached your 3 gigs.........

Or 1GB or 9GB , who says we are all on 3GB packages. I personally am on teh 1GB package.

Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
Then the next step for you winers is to jump onto this forum and B!ch like children who lost their toys. MY goodness, you are the saddest bunch of 12 year olds I have ever come across.

You are the reason the rest of us have to put up with the IBurst Capping and Shaping. They have gotto do something to prevent you people from flooding the entire SAIX bandwidth pipe.

I whine when I do not get what I am sold . That is a 1mb connection when I am uncapped and yes I should be getting the connection as I am a few km from teh basestation with full signal and low frame erorrs.
I also whine , that when I am capped , I should be getting 64kbps as that is what I was PROMISED. 64kbps is all I need for my online gaming and NO , I do not queue files in a download manager.

Another incorrect statement is that we use up the SAIX bandwidth . Iburst uses UUNET primarily with a smaller IS pipe, so please get your facts right.
The capping and shaping was part of the business plan , so how can it be our fault if that is in place ?

All I am after is what I have been sold and promised . If all you want to do is browse then get a dialup .

Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
Why not give up trying to dl every little mermaid special eddition rip and you might consider actually buying one or two for your self. You have run out of the excuse that you are dl'ing "LINUX distro's" long ago buddy.

Like everything else you generalise something to death and it is quite a joke
 

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Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
This is Typical.
Yup. Typical to have a new user lash out at the older members. How long have you had iBurst now?

Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
Why not give up trying to dl every little mermaid special eddition rip and you might consider actually buying one or two for your self. You have run out of the excuse that you are dl'ing "LINUX distro's" long ago buddy.
Actually, you're wrong there. CentOS released 4.1 recently - 4xISOs = just over 2GB. Then there's the SUSE 9.3 DVD ISO that still needs to be DLed... not forgetting Mandrake which I haven't looked at for over a year.

The point is that some of us do this as a hobby. I like messing with the different distros, from the big ones to the little known (BeatrIX, anyone?).

Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
Actually - why not just go over to ADSL, and leave the network for those that are actually wanting to surf. Thats all I do, really it is
Which makes you the correct profile for WBS. Only problem is this: Broadband and power users go hand in hand. Broadband was never meant for "just surfing". Go and look up the definition somewhere. I don't have the time nor the inclination.

Don't generalise. I use my connection for surfing and emailing - and downloading Linux distros, as luck would have it. I would appreciate you keeping your generalisations to yourself - lest I take it personally. :rolleyes:
 
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Gary

Cool man. I am also a gamer (The best ever of course) and am having problems with this. CS source works fine but BF2 is a real problem (THis has a very bad latency of +- 300). I am on the 3 Gig package.

What are you playing ?
 

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jjtoymachine said:
All the reasons i canceled!

WBS think that there customers have no power...well the company i work for HAD 5 different iburst connections including the one i was given. How, because of me, every one of those connections except for one has been canceled and the modems returned.

Maybe 4 X less pay may not seem alot for those bastards, but hey its all gona add up sooner or later!

Thats the right thing to do, you cant advocate someting to your clients you dont believe in.

weirdness beotching systems
wacked battling scenario
wicked bandwidth stealers
why build sincerity
 

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Crooked Koeksisterrrrr said:
Gary

Cool man. I am also a gamer (The best ever of course) and am having problems with this. CS source works fine but BF2 is a real problem (THis has a very bad latency of +- 300). I am on the 3 Gig package.

What are you playing ?

Really, whats you nic? Got a few things i'd like to sort out over a game or two...hehe ;)
 
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Raithlin

Sorry to offend you bud. But I thought this was an open forum. My Bad
Everyone has an opinion, some are right and others are wrong.
I am all ears.

PS: I was with IBurst from November last year (In the test phase), OMW it used to fly in those days, you could get whatever you wanted anythime, eish

Oops - let the cat outathebag there ! Cr@p.
IBurst s#ck man
 

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Crooked Koeksisterrrr, its ignorant people like you who just accept any sh!tty level of service a company throws at you and then respond 'dankie baas" afterwards, if more people stand up and say they won't take this anymore the better off we'll all be.
 

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crooked Koeksisterrr, your opinion changes as quickly as clients for a R20 hooker on bree street
 
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