The NHI is not a punishment: health minister

rietrot said:
Technically yes.



His intentions is probably good if he is a real communist, he believes he'll be helping the poor.
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At this point I find it hard to believe that anyone in the ANC doesn't know full well that all revenue streams are always looted.
 
“The country is used to a situation where the privileged can go (to doctors) at the expense of the majority.”
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Fck the majority then, they don't contribute a fckng cent to my medical expenses, I have to work my butt off and take a lot crap from many people daily to pay for that. Why should I need to work that hard if the next guy can get the same benefits without any of the effort??
 
Nick333 said:
At this point I find it hard to believe that anyone in the ANC doesn't know full well that all revenue streams are always looted.
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Skimming something off the top is their well deserved reward for leading the people. They didn't become struggle heroes to be poor. Or something like that.
 
supersunbird said:
Help more people sure, but those 15% of the population, will they keep contributing so much if they are not going to get the level of care they want?
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Key question is, why are the 15% spending so much on private health care?

I don't know, maybe because public healthcare SUCKS!!!

Next up for review - Private Schools, Insurance and maybe even Security..
 
Craig said:
Fck the majority then, they don't contribute a fckng cent to my medical expenses, I have to work my butt off and take a lot crap from many people daily to pay for that. Why should I need to work that hard if the next guy can get the same benefits without any of the effort??
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Welcome to Communism..
 
The_MAC said:
Key question is, why are the 15% spending so much on private health care?

I don't know, maybe because public healthcare SUCKS!!!

Next up for review - Private Schools, Insurance and maybe even Security..
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They'll take your ADT fees to sponsor the SAPS - but only to protect the townships. So you'll have to pay ADT twice.
 
When i think about this i picture myself at the hospital been paying tax for years and next to me a gangster that never worked a day in his life getting the same treatment and maybe even better because he was stabbed a few times for trying to rob someone.
 
“It is not a punishment, it is actually equity,” he said. “The country is used to a situation where the privileged can go (to doctors) at the expense of the majority.”
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Expense of the majority?

What are they actually paying for me to go to a doctor? I'm paying for my-fscking-self. And I'm paying for them to able to get free healthcare at a public hospital...
 
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The empire simply did not have enough money to build it, and Lord Feepness pointed out that raising the tax rate from 98% to 100% simply would not be a wise political move. Lord Dimwit, never satisfied, proposed adopting everyone in the Kingdom and telling them that he'd cut off their allowances.
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So, has Dr Zweli Mkhize got any actual experience in public finance, economics or anything that would make him qualified to make a statement such as that?

The idea that people will be willing to contribute the same amount as medical aid to a system that will give them a hugely inferior medical experience is laughable...
 
konfab said:
That is where you are mistaken.


He is a communist, which means he sincerely believes that if someone earns more than another, it is because they are oppressing someone. Free markets and voluntary interactions are concepts that this arse doesn't comprehend.
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Doesn't this guy also earn more than most other people he is saying are the majority? So he is also oppressing the rights of the majority to proper healthcare.

What an idiot
 
It would be good if they showed examples of the countries that implement a national health system when their economy was in the kind of trouble South Africa is facing.

the private medical sector is spending about R200 billion
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How much do people pay in medical aid contributions?

If we put the two together and distribute it in an equitable manner inside the system, it will help more people.
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That can only mean that the 15% must end up getting worse medical care. I'd also say that the amount the government currently spends appears to simply be money down the drain if the state of a lot of public health services is anything to go by.

If R200 billion is currently spent on private medical care, then the government would another trillion Rand to give the remainder of the population access to the same medical services.

Everything points to this all being based on a thumbsuck. It would be worrying enough, given the ANC's track record of lying, stealing and general incompetence. Much worse when they appear to be pursuing this without concrete plans.

There was a lot in the government that was messed up before the 1990s, but the average person went to government hospitals in the 70s and 80s. They weren't as nice as the private hospitals, but the quality of the medical care was comparable. No-one would go to a public hospital now if they could avoid it.

konfab said:
Free markets and voluntary interactions are concepts that this arse doesn't comprehend.
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The free market is a concept that neoliberal and neoclassical economists also don't understand (or really want).
 
So out of touch with reality that it is actually scary.

The ANC should've even be allowed to sell vetkoek on the side of the road.

“The country is used to a situation where the privileged can go (to doctors) at the expense of the majority.”
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Go and kill yourself. I pay for that privilege, just like my non-white colleagues and a great number of fortunate South Africans that have a decent job.

My whiteness has fvck all to do with 25-years and counting of your party's inability to uplift the people it uses and lies to.

Seriously, you and your entire party need to climb to the top of the tallest building and plummet from it.
 
“It is not a punishment, it is actually equity,” he said. “The country is used to a situation where the privileged can go (to doctors) at the expense of the majority.”

How is this at the expense of the majority? I work hard to afford my insanely high medical aid. No one else is paying it for me?
 
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