The plan to force ISPs to crack down on piracy in South Africa

[ReeceDBN031]

Pauses download... "eks jammer oom"

 

[yebocan]

Police do not investigate house break-ins, theft, stolen cars or hijackings to name just some of the many things they simply just take statements of in order to issue a case number for insurance.
Where are they going to be interested in 100 000 000 000 cases of piracy a day? This is very much hilarious to me.

I'd guess that 70%+ of the country is not interested in local content enough to "pirate" it. You're not exactly going to find Sokkie Jol 2020 DVD on Pirate bay.

No Sokkie Jol 2020 but --- Goue Sokkie Treffers 16 ++

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[SilverCode]

It is like Stella Ndabeni-Abrahams is trying to outdo Ivy Matsepe-Casaburri as the most useless telecoms minister SA has had.

Artists, performers, writers and producers of that content earn their living by being creative and charging service providers for the right to broadcast or stream their content

The SABC is the biggest culprit in not paying royalties to artists and performers. Get your own house in order before trying to tell others what to do Stella.

 

[konfab]

“Piracy is damaging the South African creative industries and the economic contribution of sport events. Steps need to be taken to protect South African content and intellectual property rightsholders,” the paper said.

Doublethink right there considering their recently tabled expropriation bill allows the government to expropriate any piece of property they want without compensation, including intellectual property.

 

[dualmeister]

Piracy is damaging the South African creative industries

Who the hell pirates SA content

 

[MRTOM]

Same Goverment who is all over the news for corruption.

 

[Aghori]

Is she really this ****ing stupid or did she learn it from the ANC?

 

[TelkomUseless]

What South African sport events are being pirated?
Has the SABC been broadcasting Supersport content without paying for it?

It sounds a lot like MonoChoice wrote the paper, or maybe #ProblemIsStella lifted this codswallop from some MonoChoice propaganda.

those words are MonoChoice...

 

[KikzAzz]

What garbage.

There is almost no pirate viewing of sports events (anecdotal study I did from hearsay on myBB, but still...)

And more importantly, there is almost zero SA (and content from developing countries) content on any of the dubious streaming platforms and equally little on the high seas. (I've searched.)

This ****ing retarded ****ing wench should jump up inside her own arsehole already.

I wouldn't pirate local content even if I was paid for it. Perhaps a better option for them is to force piracy of local content to force people to watch/listen to it.

And as stated by Pinball Wizard, I have never seen local content on Pirate Bay. Perhaps because there is no interest. And as far as Sport is concerned, I don't think that is really a target for pirating.

 

[zolly]

I wouldn't pirate local content even if I was paid for it. Perhaps a better option for them is to force piracy of local content to force people to watch/listen to it.

And as stated by Pinball Wizard, I have never seen local content on Pirate Bay. Perhaps because there is no interest. And as far as Sport is concerned, I don't think that is really a target for pirating.

One oke uploaded Four Corners to Pirate Bay and got nailed for it. Only case I've ever heard of and he got nailed anyway.

South African pirate pleads guilty: report

The first case involving online piracy in South Africa concluded today (Thursday, 17 April 2014) with the accused pleading guilty in the Commercial Crimes Court in Bellville, Htxt has reported.

businesstech.co.za

 

[dualmeister]

So what they wants ISP's to block torrents again?
This comes up every few years and then they forget about it again.

 

[Glordit]

> ISP blocks torrent protocols.

Laughs in XDCC.

 

[Easter Bunny]

the way i see it they have two choices:
- end region restrictions so that we can get hulu, the full netflix, etc
- accept piracy

 

[dominic]

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The Cybercrimes Bill places an obligation on ISPs to report instances of piracy and preserve any information related to the incident which may be useful to authorities.

it does not....or not yet anyway

CHAPTER 8 REPORTING OBLIGATIONS AND CAPACITY BUILDING
Obligations of electronic communications service providers and financial institutions

54. (1) An electronic communications service provider or financial institution that is aware or becomes aware that its computer system is involved in the commission of any category or class of offences provided for in Part I of Chapter 2 and which is determined in terms of subsection (2), must—

(a) without undue delay and, where feasible, not later than 72 hours after having become aware of the offence, report the offence in the prescribed form and manner to the South African Police Service; and

(b) preserve any information which may be of assistance to the law enforcement agencies in investigating the offence.

(2) The Cabinet member responsible for policing, in consultation with the Cabinet member responsible for the administration of justice, must by notice in the Gazette, prescribe—

(a) the category or class of offences which must be reported to the South African Police Service in terms of subsection (1); and

(b) the form and manner in which an electronic communications service provider or financial institution must report offences to the South African Police Service.

(3) An electronic communications service provider or financial institution that fails to comply with subsection (1), is guilty of an offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding R50 000.

(4) Subject to any other law, or obligation, the provisions of subsection (1) must not be interpreted as to impose obligations on an electronic service provider or financial institution to— (a) monitor the data which the electronic communications service provider or financial institution transmits or stores; or (b) actively seek facts or circumstances indicating any unlawful activity

...in my view the cybercrimes bill does not deal with copyright infringement so unlikely that there will be a reporting obligation (even where that is practically possible)

...this looks like government pandering to the same lobby groups that caused the copyright bill to go back to Parliament

 

[daveza]

Is it three months since the last ' crackdown on piracy in South Africa ' article already ?

 

[hj007]

That's why it was worded "The white paper also proposed that the Electronic Communications and Transactions Act be amended to strengthen protection against signal piracy."
To make it clear it's a different field.

They probably want to go after all you dirty pirates watching SABC without a tv license. Its confusing because there's actually a team called Pirates.

 

[Swa]

I'd guess that 70%+ of the country is not interested in local content enough to "pirate" it. You're not exactly going to find Sokkie Jol 2020 DVD on Pirate bay.

Wondering if this is the same local content Cloudy insisted on broadcasting that got all advertisers to withdraw. Of course piracy must be the real problem...

It does set the foundation for the great firewall of South Africa. Its easier for a government to disguise curbing of freedoms through legitimate reasons such as illegal content, pornography... were the public will highly like approve but once the necessary technologies are in, hitting the switch to kill access to Social Media, News Sites, International Media Platform and Services, is a matter of a minor policy tweak by a majority ANC government whose dirty laundry continues to leak by the minute...

How is that a legitimate reason? Even illegal content has a different definition from one person to the next. Imo there are no legitimate reasons to block any content as it essentially amounts to policing thoughts but...

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[Shadowchaser1]

Ex cit. This is the from the person who doesn't know where Switzerland is? Jeez. WHAHAHA. Is there any positive news from SA @ all?

 

[system32]

The South African government plans to introduce legislation that places responsibilities on Internet service providers (ISPs) to help fight copyright infringement online.

ISP's are not the police.

The police must do their own job.

 

[Dairyfarmer]

So what they wants ISP's to block torrents again?

> ISP blocks torrent protocols.

Laughs in XDCC.

My ISP blocks all P2P, so I just use Real Debrid's seedbox to download. I just upload the .torrent or magnet link to RD and download the file from RD.