The pro Jab Scientist on the forum

rh1

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So before I get into it, I believe everyone should be able to make their own informed decision on whether to get the jab. However, the pro jab scientists on the forum cannot let it go, should you dare make the decision they disagree with. I got tired of the back and forth and summarised their (pro jab scientist) viewpoints as I see them or how it comes across to me. Disclaimer I did take the more vocal and irrational of the bunch. There are rational pro jabbers but they are being drowned out.

My Comparison:
My Viewpoint - not scientificMYBB Pro Jabber Scientific View Point
1. I trust my immune system.1. The jab is 200% better than a healthy immune system.
2a. I am taking a wait and see approach until new data and information come out.2a. The science behind the Jab is 100% irrefutable, if you understand how science work, you would know that there cannot be new data in future that can override the current data and the current conclusions. The conclusion on the jab is set in stone and cannot change. Trust me I am a scientist.
2b. I will not be taking the jab as I have a high chance of surviving COVID should I be infected2b. You are same as an Afghan cave dweller who believe the Earth is flat and refuse to let is children get the polio vaccine (Yes this was really said). The science behind the Jab is 100% irrefutable, if you understand how science work, you would know that there cannot be new data in future that can override the current data and the current conclusions. The conclusion on the jab is set in stone. Trust me I am a scientist.
3. The jab only decrease the chance of you dying.3. The jab will eliminate COVID and allow us to socialise once again and return to normal. (This changes according to differing forum scientist, but this is the one I experienced.)
4. There are other effective strategies that an individual can employ to reduce transmission. I am currently staying inside and isolating from the general public and only going 1 a week out for shopping trips.4. You are 100% infecting all the Jabbed people, and keeping the hospitals full. Only the jab works and there are no other strategy a person can employ to reduce transmission. You are selfish and don’t care about the greater good.
5. The definition of the Vaccine has changed and does not have same meaning as the average person on the street understand it.5. The Jab will do what the smallpox vaccine did to smallpox and therefore we need to implement mandatory vaccination.


Let the flaming begin.
 

greg0205

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So before I get into it, I believe everyone should be able to make their own informed decision on whether to get the jab. However, the pro jab scientists on the forum cannot let it go, should you dare make the decision they disagree with. I got tired of the back and forth and summarised their (pro jab scientist) viewpoints as I see them or how it comes across to me. Disclaimer I did take the more vocal and irrational of the bunch. There are rational pro jabbers but they are being drowned out.

My Comparison:
My Viewpoint - not scientificMYBB Pro Jabber Scientific View Point
1. I trust my immune system.1. The jab is 200% better than a healthy immune system.
2a. I am taking a wait and see approach until new data and information come out.2a. The science behind the Jab is 100% irrefutable, if you understand how science work, you would know that there cannot be new data in future that can override the current data and the current conclusions. The conclusion on the jab is set in stone and cannot change. Trust me I am a scientist.
2b. I will not be taking the jab as I have a high chance of surviving COVID should I be infected2b. You are same as an Afghan cave dweller who believe the Earth is flat and refuse to let is children get the polio vaccine (Yes this was really said). The science behind the Jab is 100% irrefutable, if you understand how science work, you would know that there cannot be new data in future that can override the current data and the current conclusions. The conclusion on the jab is set in stone. Trust me I am a scientist.
3. The jab only decrease the chance of you dying.3. The jab will eliminate COVID and allow us to socialise once again and return to normal. (This changes according to differing forum scientist, but this is the one I experienced.)
4. There are other effective strategies that an individual can employ to reduce transmission. I am currently staying inside and isolating from the general public and only going 1 a week out for shopping trips.4. You are 100% infecting all the Jabbed people, and keeping the hospitals full. Only the jab works and there are no other strategy a person can employ to reduce transmission. You are selfish and don’t care about the greater good.
5. The definition of the Vaccine has changed and does not have same meaning as the average person on the street understand it.5. The Jab will do what the smallpox vaccine did to smallpox and therefore we need to implement mandatory vaccination.


Let the flaming begin.
Found this earlier today on twitter...

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Seems relevant.
 

C4Cat

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So before I get into it, I believe everyone should be able to make their own informed decision on whether to get the jab. However, the pro jab scientists on the forum cannot let it go, should you dare make the decision they disagree with. I got tired of the back and forth and summarised their (pro jab scientist) viewpoints as I see them or how it comes across to me. Disclaimer I did take the more vocal and irrational of the bunch. There are rational pro jabbers but they are being drowned out.

My Comparison:
My Viewpoint - not scientificMYBB Pro Jabber Scientific View Point
1. I trust my immune system.1. The jab is 200% better than a healthy immune system.
2a. I am taking a wait and see approach until new data and information come out.2a. The science behind the Jab is 100% irrefutable, if you understand how science work, you would know that there cannot be new data in future that can override the current data and the current conclusions. The conclusion on the jab is set in stone and cannot change. Trust me I am a scientist.
2b. I will not be taking the jab as I have a high chance of surviving COVID should I be infected2b. You are same as an Afghan cave dweller who believe the Earth is flat and refuse to let is children get the polio vaccine (Yes this was really said). The science behind the Jab is 100% irrefutable, if you understand how science work, you would know that there cannot be new data in future that can override the current data and the current conclusions. The conclusion on the jab is set in stone. Trust me I am a scientist.
3. The jab only decrease the chance of you dying.3. The jab will eliminate COVID and allow us to socialise once again and return to normal. (This changes according to differing forum scientist, but this is the one I experienced.)
4. There are other effective strategies that an individual can employ to reduce transmission. I am currently staying inside and isolating from the general public and only going 1 a week out for shopping trips.4. You are 100% infecting all the Jabbed people, and keeping the hospitals full. Only the jab works and there are no other strategy a person can employ to reduce transmission. You are selfish and don’t care about the greater good.
5. The definition of the Vaccine has changed and does not have same meaning as the average person on the street understand it.5. The Jab will do what the smallpox vaccine did to smallpox and therefore we need to implement mandatory vaccination.


Let the flaming begin.
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Pineapple Smurf

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Too long too read
I went for my 1st jab on Friday, 9 days ago
I heard you must not drink alcohol for 48 hrs afterwards
I got home at 10h35 ish and sat down and drank 9 Black Labels that day before going to bed early
Woke up Saturday and felt on top of the world

Pfizer rocks, going for round 2 on 1st Oct
 

Geoff.D

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Too long too read
I went for my 1st jab on Friday, 9 days ago
I heard you must not drink alcohol for 48 hrs afterwards
I got home at 10h35 ish and sat down and drank 9 Black Labels that day before going to bed early
Woke up Saturday and felt on top of the world

Pfizer rocks, going for round 2 on 1st Oct
Well a REAL SA doctor on a phone in TV program said this last night.
1 Don't take pain and anti-inflammatories 24 hours before a jab.
2 Only take any prescribed chronic medication BUT you could consult your doctor about even that before getting the jab.
3 Paracetamol after the jab BUT resist the temptation, the adverse effects subside quite quickly, AND you don't want to suppress a real adverse reaction.
4. Like with all medication, NO alcohol for 24 hours before and 24 - 36 hours after the jab is a good idea.
5. J&J takes 14 days to reach maximum protection.
6. Pfizer takes 56days after the first jab to reach maximum protection. (42 + 14). 42 days to second and 14 days after that.
 

Pineapple Smurf

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Well a REAL SA doctor on a phone in TV program said this last night.
1 Don't take pain and anti-inflammatories 24 hours before a jab.
2 Only take any prescribed chronic medication BUT you could consult your doctor about even that before getting the jab.
3 Paracetamol after the jab BUT resist the temptation, the adverse effects subside quite quickly, AND you don't want to suppress a real adverse reaction.
4. Like with all medication, NO alcohol for 24 hours before and 24 - 36 hours after the jab is a good idea.
5. J&J takes 14 days to reach maximum protection.
6. Pfizer takes 56days after the first jab to reach maximum protection. (42 + 14). 42 days to second and 14 days after that.
Well, I proved point 4 wrong.
I drank at least 3 litres of beer the night before the jab on Thursday night
And then 9 beers straight afterwards on Friday as soon as I arrived at home
:thumbsup:

Doctors can only advise, they're aren't experts. I believe you need to listen to yourself and know what is happening with your own body. Doctors cannot feel that same feeling :)
 

Little-Mermaid

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Well, I proved point 4 wrong.
I drank at least 3 litres of beer the night before the jab on Thursday night
And then 9 beers straight afterwards on Friday as soon as I arrived at home
:thumbsup:

Doctors can only advise, they're aren't experts. I believe you need to listen to yourself and know what is happening with your own body. Doctors cannot feel that same feeling :)
Somehow I think covid might be the least of your worries :ROFL:
 

Paulsie

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So before I get into it, I believe everyone should be able to make their own informed decision on whether to get the jab. However, the pro jab scientists on the forum cannot let it go, should you dare make the decision they disagree with. I got tired of the back and forth and summarised their (pro jab scientist) viewpoints as I see them or how it comes across to me. Disclaimer I did take the more vocal and irrational of the bunch. There are rational pro jabbers but they are being drowned out.

My Comparison:
My Viewpoint - not scientificMYBB Pro Jabber Scientific View Point
1. I trust my immune system.1. The jab is 200% better than a healthy immune system.
2a. I am taking a wait and see approach until new data and information come out.2a. The science behind the Jab is 100% irrefutable, if you understand how science work, you would know that there cannot be new data in future that can override the current data and the current conclusions. The conclusion on the jab is set in stone and cannot change. Trust me I am a scientist.
2b. I will not be taking the jab as I have a high chance of surviving COVID should I be infected2b. You are same as an Afghan cave dweller who believe the Earth is flat and refuse to let is children get the polio vaccine (Yes this was really said). The science behind the Jab is 100% irrefutable, if you understand how science work, you would know that there cannot be new data in future that can override the current data and the current conclusions. The conclusion on the jab is set in stone. Trust me I am a scientist.
3. The jab only decrease the chance of you dying.3. The jab will eliminate COVID and allow us to socialise once again and return to normal. (This changes according to differing forum scientist, but this is the one I experienced.)
4. There are other effective strategies that an individual can employ to reduce transmission. I am currently staying inside and isolating from the general public and only going 1 a week out for shopping trips.4. You are 100% infecting all the Jabbed people, and keeping the hospitals full. Only the jab works and there are no other strategy a person can employ to reduce transmission. You are selfish and don’t care about the greater good.
5. The definition of the Vaccine has changed and does not have same meaning as the average person on the street understand it.5. The Jab will do what the smallpox vaccine did to smallpox and therefore we need to implement mandatory vaccination.


Let the flaming begin.
You forgot to include "show me your qualifications".
 
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