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buka001

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Exactly! Once you get to a threshold ( nominally 50%) the picture WILL swing to the other side. hence the phrase "tipping point" It is only after that point is reached, AND the numbers of people in ICU still remain dominated by the unvaccinated that ANT valid claims are possible of the effects of getting vaccinated. If the numbers tip also, THEN the original assumption is immediately in doubt.

And that is why the pro-vaxxers are so scared -- Their hypothesis is turning into mush in front of their eyes, and they don't like it.
What hypothesis?

Have you had a look at Denmark and how well the vaccines have worked there?
 

JohnMao

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Technical_Briefing_22:
412 deceased or 68% of UK Delta Covid deaths were fully vaccinated for the period 15 Aug to 29 Aug - steadily climbing, up from 62% to 68% from the previous 2 week period.
The anti-vaxxers must be loving that stat climbing...
 

tetrasect

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Exactly! Once you get to a threshold ( nominally 50%) the picture WILL swing to the other side. hence the phrase "tipping point" It is only after that point is reached, AND the numbers of people in ICU still remain dominated by the unvaccinated that ANT valid claims are possible of the effects of getting vaccinated. If the numbers tip also, THEN the original assumption is immediately in doubt.

And that is why the pro-vaxxers are so scared -- Their hypothesis is turning into mush in front of their eyes, and they don't like it.

Yeah you miss the part where as an example (numbers made up just as an illustration) today 20% of people are vaccinated and present 50 out of 1000 daily deaths (5%). In the future 90% are vaccinated and present 70 out of 100 daily deaths (70%).

That's not a problem, because instead of 1000 deaths we now only have 100 deaths.

Dunno what "hypothesis" you think "is turning into mush".
You think pro-vaxxers believe that even in a 100% vaccinated population there will still be unvaccinated deaths? o_O
 

Geoff.D

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ou think pro-vaxxers believe that even in a 100% vaccinated population there will still be unvaccinated deaths?
Oh yes, many do! We have just seen an idiot of a farmer on TV espousing exactly this crap!
(Wonder if he and CD are friends or related ????) :cautious: :unsure:
 
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Geoff.D

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So the little white men on the Left graphic must grow faster. The little white men in the middle must go down but the entire number of red men must decrease at a faster rate.
The middle right graphic must change colour and decrease in size.
The right graphic must shrink as it changes colour from red to white.
 

tetrasect

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So the little white men on the Left graphic *will grow faster. The little white men in the middle *will go down but the entire number of red men *will decrease at a faster rate.
The middle right graphic *will change colour and decrease in size.
The right graphic *will shrink as it changes colour from red to white.

FTFY
 

_Dog

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So they publish cherry picked information (60+ only), without a link to the raw data? Additionally only 11.8% of SA is fully vaccinated?

The UK and Israel vaccination/mortality long-term data which gives you more realistic forecast is ignored?

The government made a large portion of the 500 billion in Covid preparation funds disappear - but we believe them when the post propaganda like this?
 
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Geoff.D

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So they publish cherry picked information (60+ only), without a link to the raw data? Additionally only 11.8% of SA is fully vaccinated?

The UK and Israel vaccination/mortality long-term data which gives you more realistic forecast is ignored?

The government made a large portion of the 500 billion in Covid preparation funds disappear - but we believe them when the post propaganda like this?
Yup, very carefully chosen stats to try and highlight a point which is almost totally meaningless from all statistical points of view.
Even managed to convince the squirrel to use it in his speech last night which was useless because no normal person could keep track of his verbal explanation anyway.
 
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