The racism related news articles thread

[MidnightWizard]

I think there is a Rage against the machine song that will suit this clown..........no outrage from the SAHRC on this though.

Lyrics for Bullets for Bafazane by Johnny Clegg & Juluka

Shadow men from the outlands come to town
Looking for Bafazane
They want to gun him down -- oh no
They say he thunders too loud and his people are proud
They'll never give in while he's still around
And it's the sky above that he loves

They've got bullets for Bafazane -- They want to gun him down
They've got bullets for Bafazane -- Now they're searching the town
They've got bullets for Bafazane -- And the word's got around
They've got bullets for Bafazane

Eyes wide open in the backroom,
Finger on the trigger
Listening for any sound that will
Betray the silent deadly figure
He's got iron in his soul,
He's got a smile in his eyes
He makes dancing shoes from old car tyres
And it's the sky up above that he loves
It's the sky up above that he loves
'Cause for him he's alive and that's enough

 

[WaxLyrical]

Where? Out in public? Honestly, I'm yet to meet anyone who endorses his party publicly. I've noticed a few band of supporters are potential career politicians who are looking to catch the early bird.

His rhetoric has the possibility of gaining traction when you have masses that are easily seduced by Doom spray pastors and the like.

There's massive unemployment, service delivery problems and a lot more issues that will force them to look for alternative leadership.

Look how the dictator Malema rose through the ranks to lead one of the most powerful parties in SA's history.

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Never seen a horse's ass on a donkey before.....

Bahahaha! Anyone know how to remove coffee from a screen and keyboard?

 

[hungrymamba]

He does promote that white people are illegally here and that it must be land or death as a public statement.

Their slogans are public,

'kill the farmer‚ kill the boer'
'dubula Ibhunu'
'one settler‚ one bullet'
'land or death'

and always publicly state that black people must be ready to die. That is a call-up... the enemy is white.

I did state that he was racist, outright... I do not understand why you're badgering me about something that I made clear from the start. Racists like him win when we become worked out over their utterances. But facts being told, the response you quoted was in response to him "calling for the extermination of an entire race", that is a lie. He did not call for calling for the extermination of an entire race....... , people should not distort statements to suit their narrative(agenda)...

 

[The Trutherizer]

Btw... Voice of blackness my arse. Voice of black Nationalism. Nothing more, nothing less. The neo-NATS basically.

 

[ponder]

I must also mention some are just not crazy about trees.

For what reasons?

Lol, yonks ago I was at a pre-handover site inspection to note any outstanding issues, the regional executive (white) & his senior manager (black) for that specific area were also present. After the inside inspection was done I tagged along outside even though I had no responsibilities there. This is northern kzn and the premises had a lovely lush green garden with some big old trees, some with creepers. The exec mentions to the contractor they should maybe just cut the grass again and clean up a little bit before opening after which the sen man pipes up yeah and cut down the two trees in the front here. I have a quiet wtf in my head, the exec is quiet for a few secs and says in a firm voice 'anybody that cuts down a tree is no fried of mine', the trees lived on

 

[Sinbad]

Btw... Voice of blackness my arse. Voice of black Nationalism. Nothing more, nothing less. The neo-NATS basically.

neo-nazi...

 

[Flanders]

For what reasons?

Lol, yonks ago I was at a pre-handover site inspection to note any outstanding issues, the regional executive (white) & his senior manager (black) for that specific area were also present. After the inside inspection was done I tagged along outside even though I had no responsibilities there. This is northern kzn and the premises had a lovely lush green garden with some big old trees, some with creepers. The exec mentions to the contractor they should maybe just cut the grass again and clean up a little bit before opening after which the sen man pipes up yeah and cut down the two trees in the front here. I have a quiet wtf in my head, the exec is quiet for a few secs and says in a firm voice 'anybody that cuts down a tree is no fried of mine', the trees lived on

I can relate.

 

[Tokolotshe]

https://www.iol.co.za/saturday-star...bers-that-white-blood-would-be-spilt-18432325

Johannesburg - The Johannesburg Bar Council has condemned a “vicious racial attack” on one of its members at the High Court in Joburg, claiming the court’s security team is “wholly inadequate”.
According to bar council chairperson Kameshni Pillay, a female advocate was attacked at the court on Wednesday by members of Black First Land First (BLF), who were staging a protest outside.

Pillay said the advocate was apparently part of an argument with a security guard, and the BLF became involved, threatening and shouting at her. When the woman subsequently went inside the courthouse, the BLF members followed her into a lift, where the group of men and women began punching her in the face, telling her that “white blood would be spilt”. It was only when the elevator opened that she was pulled out and able to escape, though the group of BLF members began venturing into the various courtrooms trying to find her. The advocate ultimately had to be “smuggled” out of the building, according to Pillay.
...
BLF president Andile Mngxitama said his members had reported that the woman involved was a “racist” who was “trying to throw her weight around”. He said that racial comments were allegedly made in the elevator, and that only women were involved in the physical attack. While the council has denied this, saying that men and women were involved in the attack, Mngxitama said he encouraged his members to deal with racists, even if it meant becoming physical.

 

[ForceFate]

For what reasons?

Lol, yonks ago I was at a pre-handover site inspection to note any outstanding issues, the regional executive (white) & his senior manager (black) for that specific area were also present. After the inside inspection was done I tagged along outside even though I had no responsibilities there. This is northern kzn and the premises had a lovely lush green garden with some big old trees, some with creepers. The exec mentions to the contractor they should maybe just cut the grass again and clean up a little bit before opening after which the sen man pipes up yeah and cut down the two trees in the front here. I have a quiet wtf in my head, the exec is quiet for a few secs and says in a firm voice 'anybody that cuts down a tree is no fried of mine', the trees lived on

I don't know. Maybe something to do with security; thugs using the tree to go over the fence? Some people are less concerned about these kind of things than others (I may be wrong but I think some people from urban areas aren't that much into nature).

 

[Sinbad]

I don't know. Maybe something to do with security; thugs using the tree to go over the fence? Some people are less concerned about these kind of things than others (I may be wrong but I think some people from urban areas aren't that much into nature).

I'm from an urban area, we bought the house we're currently in primarily because of the tree in the front yard

 

[ForceFate]

I don't know. Maybe something to do with security; thugs using the tree to go over the fence? Some people are less concerned about these kind of things than others (I may be wrong but I think some people from urban areas aren't that much into nature).

I'm from an urban area, we bought the house we're currently in primarily because of the tree in the front yard

I may be guilty of (gross) generalisations but I clearly stated "some". Admittedly, it's mostly my kind in urban areas.

 

[Fulcrum29]

I did state that he was racist, outright... I do not understand why you're badgering me about something that I made clear from the start. Racists like him win when we become worked out over their utterances. But facts being told, the response you quoted was in response to him "calling for the extermination of an entire race", that is a lie. He did not call for calling for the extermination of an entire race....... , people should not distort statements to suit their narrative(agenda)...

The BLF's main goal is to displace whites away from Africa, it is within their own EWC policy, not to mention their own hypocritical Constitution,

https://blf.org.za/blf-sm-constitution/

they promote themselves as anti-racist, but to destroy white supremacy.

To quote the BLF,

https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/blf-wants-all-the-land-in-white-hands-20180905

"BLF supports the call to amend section 25 of the Constitution so that all land in the hands of white people is returned to the hands of black people, all that land which is currently in the hands of white people. And that includes land in Orania, land in Stellenbosch, all that land must be returned," he said.

"Land expropriation must ensure land returns to the hands of black people.

"The problem is white people have stolen our land," Mngxitama said.

"All land, all of it, unused, used, productive, unproductive belongs to black people."

"Orania and other white people have no right to this land. And you must return it."

It doesn’t change how these land issue points are argued when NAFU said,

https://www.thesouthafrican.com/land-expropriation-day-two-five-talking-points/

“We consider the land priceless. The land should not be sold. We are calling for a farming Codesa for our country. Nationalising all land must include communal and traditional land.

Nobody can wish white people away. They are citizens of this country. We can’t say the white farmers must be wiped out [but] it should not be that our white compatriots continue to tell us what is good for us.”

Why even say it like that, that is no assurance it is an idea.

It is not about exterminating whites, it about depriving whites. It is about taking white people’s possessions away. Nobody can say otherwise, because when EWC is billed, these points have to change,

http://www.justice.gov.za/legislation/constitution/SAConstitution-web-eng-02.pdf (PDF)

Property

(1) No one may be deprived of property except in terms of law of general application, and no law may permit arbitrary deprivation of property.

(2) Property may be expropriated only in terms of law of general application
(a) for a public purpose or in the public interest; and
(b) subject to compensation, the amount of which and the time and manner of payment of which have either been agreed to by those affected or decided or approved by a court.

(4) For the purposes of this section
(a) the public interest includes the nation’s commitment to land reform, and to reforms to bring about equitable access to all South Africa’s natural resources; and
(b) property is not limited to land.

and this here should read,

(a) for a public purpose or in the public interest; and

as

(a) for a majority purpose or in the majority interest; and

all that for some peoples own personal gain.

I believe Zuma best stated how voting works in a democracy.

People may laugh at Andile Mngxitama riding his donkey through Tlokwe, but he speaks to the right communities. He has a target market. It is irrelevant whether he is or still is supported by Zuma and the Gupta association. To always say it is rent-a-crowds is a lazy excuse.

The only call the white 'supremacists' has made is a call for their own land and right for self-determination, and protecting their own property.

I guess everything is all right, one settler, one bullet.

 

[Fulcrum29]

I'm from an urban area, we bought the house we're currently in primarily because of the tree in the front yard

Here in Cape Town, it is all about green zones nowadays. Where I live it is very green and it isn't due to the municipality but due to people planting trees within their own property. Actually, the municipality has been removing dead trees without replacing them...

 

[WaxLyrical]

It is his right to be concerned, I cannot fault him for that but how long has Mngxitama been in the scene? how long does it take him to get some traction? Maybe ignorant masses will buy into his idea but in my experience that never amounts to anything, Terreblance died trying.

Forget ET. Look how Malema rose through the ranks and he's spewing the same kind of rhetoric as Andile.

 

[ponder]

I don't know. Maybe something to do with security; thugs using the tree to go over the fence? Some people are less concerned about these kind of things than others (I may be wrong but I think some people from urban areas aren't that much into nature).

The trees were inside the property so of no help to a criminal trying to get in. The trees were huge, trunk goes far up before first branches so won't even provide cover to someone.

Look at new estates, residential areas etc, the look pretty barren, people plant trees and in 10-20yrs time that place looks completely different in an arial photo compared to before, lush & green.

 

[Deleted member]

To be fair, neither did Andile ....

You need a guide dog and a white stick, you eyes are worse than the Ref in the 2002 World cup football game of Italy Vs South Korea...............

https://citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/2010239/white-existence-is-a-crime-says-blf-spokesperson/

That is Andile's endorsement as the leader of his Party. That's one of the many, that's enough in my book to justify my statement that their message is cleanse the country of white people...........

 

[Deleted member]

I did state that he was racist, outright... I do not understand why you're badgering me about something that I made clear from the start. Racists like him win when we become worked out over their utterances. But facts being told, the response you quoted was in response to him "calling for the extermination of an entire race", that is a lie. He did not call for calling for the extermination of an entire race....... , people should not distort statements to suit their narrative(agenda)...

No he just uses Lindsay Maasdorp as a proxy i suppose hey? Wake up, it's not a lie its straight out of the horses mouth.......I think we can refer back to the statement Maasdorp made around "having aspirations to kill whites"........how many, just one or two because thats ok in your book.........not calling for the extermination of white people hey?

Their entire Rhetoric is based upon exterminating white people from this country.

 

[Tokolotshe]

The trees were inside the property so of no help to a criminal trying to get in. The trees were huge, trunk goes far up before first branches so won't even provide cover to someone.

That is dangerous, a bird may crap on you! That's why I planted many trees, now huge, to have many bluebirds of happiness ...

It's intresting coming in to land at OR Tambo, looking down at JHB and the East Rand. Certain areas look like a forest, some are bare.

 

[Fulcrum29]

https://www.afriforum.co.za/afriforum-takes-andile-mngxitama-equality-court/

AfriForum takes Andile Mngxitama to the Equality Court

The civil rights organisation AfriForum instructed its legal team to compose court documents to lay a charge of hate speech against Andile Mngxitama, Leader of Black First Land First (BLF), at the Equality Court. In the entreaties AfriForum also requests a finding by the Court that the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) must institute an investigation to criminally prosecute Mngxitama.

This follows after Mngxitama on 8 December incited the murder on white people during a speech in Potchefstroom.

“We’ll kill their children. We’ll kill their women. We’ll kill anything that we find on our way… We’ll kill their dogs. We’ll kill their cats. We’ll kill anything that comes before us,” said Mngxitama among others. He argued that his organisation will murder five white people each time a black person is murdered in South Africa. Mngxitama furthermore argued that his organisation is busy mobilising 50 000 soldiers for this objective.

Ernst Roets, Deputy CEO of AfriForum, says that this is blatant hate speech and incitement of violence, and that the organisation will fight it with the necessary earnestness.

In the court documents AfriForum furthermore requests that Mngxitama is ordered to pay R500 000 to an organisation which campaigns towards battling hate speech.

AfriForum’s court documents ought to be filed at the Equality Court by tomorrow.

I wonder what the outcome of today's case in the Equality Court is?

Mngxitama said a lot more, and misquoted Anton Rupert way out of context, in his public speech. Not to mention that the Taxi Association is black, isn't it?