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[ngwe23]

Well nothing except the knowledge and skills that those Europeans possessed that black South Africans didn't possess...

Other than that small thing yea I agree... nothing... nothing at all...

Because black do not have the capacity to learn those skills?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Of course yes. If not better. There is NOTHING that makes white people inherently better at doing these things than us.

And what time frame do you think that would have taken, considering the Europeans (yes White people) brought many hundreds of years of education and learning etc with them, that wasn't in this part of the world.

 

[Flanders]

Of course yes. If not better. There is NOTHING that makes white people inherently better at doing these things than us.

Of course. Stop being so presumptuous, everyone. They were getting round to it, okay? Time stands still for no man and African time stands still for no white man.

 

[ngwe23]

Ok, lets play this game.

You have now had a once thriving economy for 2 decades, how have you improved it? Shall I go pull figures to show you how the rand has dropped?

The economy was any thing but thriving before 94. It is not much much much much better than it was. Feel free to post numbers.

 

[Deadmanza]

The economy was any thing but thriving before 94. It is not much much much much better than it was. Feel free to post numbers.

http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/82273/sa-rand-value-1994-2015/

Looks pretty bad to me...

 

[porchrat]

Because black do not have the capacity to learn those skills?

They do, however at the time the fact remains they didn't have those skills. You're acting like the base level of education, skills and understanding of the world was equal across the 2 cultures. It wasn't. It was actively maintained that way, and doing so was wrong, but under those circumstances you can't pretend black saffers could have achieved what white saffers were achieving. They simply didn't have the skills. 20 years after freedom and they still don't, the blame for that recent blunder cannot be laid at the feet of white south africans. There is only one organisation to blame for that and they aren't white.

 

[ngwe23]

http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/82273/sa-rand-value-1994-2015/

Looks pretty bad to me...

Because the strength of the currency is the only valid metric to gauge performance of the economy. Feel free to post GDP and income level numbers.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Because the strength of the currency is the only valid metric to gauge performance of the economy. Feel free to post GDP and income level numbers.

How have we done in comparison to our economic peers from 1994 etc etc...

One can't just look at a single entity in isolation anymore...

 

[TriGuN]

And what time frame do you think that would have taken, considering the Europeans (yes White people) brought many hundreds of years of education and learning etc with them, that wasn't in this part of the world.

Hundreds? Do you know how many thousands of years we would have to go back in European history before we were on a comparable level to the tribes that were in Southern Africa when we arrived?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Hundreds? Do you know how many thousands of years we would have to go back in European history before we were on a comparable level to the tribes that were in Southern Africa when we arrived?

Not so sure about many thousands of years to be honest...

Maybe in some areas, but not necessarily all areas.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

How have we done in comparison to our economic peers from 1994 etc etc...

One can't just look at a single entity in isolation anymore...

Source: https://www.google.co.za/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=ny_gdp_mktp_kd_zg&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:ZAF:NAM:NGA:BWA&ifdim=region&tstart=761004000000&tend=1392156000000&hl=en&dl=en&ind=false&icfg

We're pretty much at the bottom

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Not so sure about many thousands of years to be honest...

Maybe in some areas, but not necessarily all areas.

In architecture and building thousands seems accurate: http://all-that-is-interesting.com/worlds-oldest-structures

Unless you throw the pyramids into the mix ...

 

[konfab]

In architecture and building thousands seems accurate: http://all-that-is-interesting.com/worlds-oldest-structures

Unless you throw the pyramids into the mix ...

Those ones in Scottland look dangerously like a certain Jedi Master's doing...

I smell a rat.

 

[rwenzori]

Your words not mine.

Then you are just being ridiculous. Did all this hard black labour result in a medical condition of growing shoulder chips?

 

[rwenzori]

Yo! Blacks-did-all-the-work fellow! Don't forget our Indian population, largely brought here because the locals did not want to work ( this has been somewhat bowdlerised to make it more PC from what I remember ):

The modern South African Indian community is largely descended from Indians who arrived in South Africa from 1860 onwards. The first 342 of these came on board the Truro from Madras, followed by the Belvedere from Calcutta. They were transported as indentured labourers to work on the sugarcane plantations of Natal Colony, and, in total, approximately 150,000 Indians arrived as indentured labourers over a period of 5 decades, later also as indentured coal miners and railway workers. ... Indians were imported as it was found by colonial authorities that local black Africans were economically self-sufficient, and thus unwilling to subject themselves to employment by colonial farmers, while other colonial authorities believed that the "hunting and warrior" African culture of the time was incompatible with a sudden shift to employed labour.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_South_Africans

 

[ToxicBunny]

Don't bring history and facts into this... its not welcome.

 

[freddster]

Ask the Apartheid strategist who are the architects of our current predicaments.

What CURRENT predicaments? 21 years...or can't your maths brain compute that? So someone who started school at 6 in 1995, would be 26 or 27 now, would have completed school, and university now and have 4-5 years work experience with the new lowered standard of education. So again, you have AA, BEE, a corrupt government and its municipalities on your side. You have corrupt officials on your side. You are 50million compared to us 4-5million? So , to repeat WHAT PREDICAMENTS????

 

[Vrotappel]

Ask the Apartheid strategist who are the architects of our current predicaments.

What is your current predicament, are you better or worse off than the average African in other sub Saharan countries?

 

[Vrotappel]

We are, thank you for the concern. Rome was not built in a day. How many years of white men having a clear and uncontested advantage in the economy did it take for them to get to where they are? Centuries.

What do you mean by advantage? Do you want to improve everyone's life or is this a a revenge game with only one winner? It seems that you want a bigger slice of the cake as opposed to increasing the size of the cake. That's the Mugabe mindset.

 

[ngwe23]

How have we done in comparison to our economic peers from 1994 etc etc...

One can't just look at a single entity in isolation anymore...

What you talking about. The issue was about pre 94 and post 94. You like shifting the the argument to fit your agenda.