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[Spizz]

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Us whiteys just sat on our arses sipping brandewyn while you f**kers worked.

Edit. You might want to exclude blacks' contribution to the sugar industry, methinks. LOL!

I always said that anyone can dig a hole. Knowing where to dig it is the hard part.

Besides, I thought there was no work yet the blacks built everything????

 

[Jings]

Black South Africans are still at the bottom end of the scale on any measurable metric. Education. Employment. House hold income. Health. Everything. That is our predicament.

Here's a real problem. Unemployment is at an all time high of 25%. One quarter of the population, ie, 13 million out of 52 million.

Even with implementation if BEE, what does it actually solve? There are only 4 million white people. Who's problem is it?

Zuma has been sweeping the real issue under the carpet and blaming apartheid. But the truth is there aren't enough jobs for 13 million people of the total population because the focus has not been on governing the country, rather mainly propaganda, siphoning tax payers money and selling us out to Guptas and China.

 

[rwenzori]

It in irritating when people twist my words.

I do have great reason to a chip on my shoulder and I embrace it. Lest I forget what was stolen from my forefathers.

We have thrown your own words back at you, so no use now denying it and changing your choon, mate.

Who stole what, exactly? A position in a Zulu impi? A hectare of subsistence farm?

You might also consider that you might not exist if not for the introduction and use of modern medicine by whites.

 

[ngwe23]

You know the expression "bootstrap loader"? Meaning to pull yourself up by your bootstraps (in computer terms). If you are feeling impoverished and hard-done by, I suggest you bootstrap your life rather than wallowing in this "black pain" stuff in the hope that someone else will lift you out of your misery.

We are doing that. Thanks for the concern tho.

 

[R13...]

True. There are a helluva lot of you too ( don't take that the wrong way ). Yet you have been in power long time now and your elected ANC government governs badly and takes all the wrong steps in improving the situation.

You know the expression "bootstrap loader"? Meaning to pull yourself up by your bootstraps (in computer terms). If you are feeling impoverished and hard-done by, I suggest you bootstrap your life rather than wallowing in this "black pain" stuff in the hope that someone else will lift you out of your misery.

Always mistook you for making well reasoned arguments despite your surly manner. But you're verging on bigotry here.

 

[ellyally]

We have thrown your own words back at you, so no use now denying it and changing your choon, mate.

Who stole what, exactly? A position in a Zulu impi? A hectare of subsistence farm?

You might also consider that you might not exist if not for the introduction and use of modern medicine by whites.

I'd also like to get a real answer for this one. Constantly hear the 'land' argument, yet the only people who ever owned land(and everything else, the animals, the people, the grass) was the chief. He decided what you did, who you did, when you did it and where you did it. The only people who lost anything in the battles was the chiefs.

 

[ngwe23]

A 20 year old white person has had the same amount of time a 20 year old black person has had to 'entrench' themselves anywhere... 20 years.

You are assuming that they are starting form the same base and they are not. The biggest determiner to you prospects in life is your parents.

 

[rwenzori]

Always mistook you for making well reasoned arguments despite your surly manner. But you're verging on bigotry here.

Yes, probably. Grumpy tonight. I'll endeavour to improve ( not the surliness tho ).

 

[Dave]

Lest I forget what was stolen from my forefathers.

As a matter of interest, land that was voluntarily given or sold by Kings (like Shaka), is that included in the stolen category?

 

[rwenzori]

the only people who ever owned land(and everything else, the animals, the people, the grass) was the chief. He decided what you did, who you did, when you did it and where you did it.

That is still the case. A mate of mine wanted a place to build a house last year - went to his chief, who allocated him a plot. Mate chuffed.

( Black mate, in case you need it spelled out ).

 

[ngwe23]

Here's a real problem. Unemployment is at an all time high of 25%. One quarter of the population, ie, 13 million out of 52 million.

Even with implementation if BEE, what does it actually solve? There are only 4 million white people. Who's problem is it?

That is because BEE is not meant to solve unemployment problem. I have no ideas where you got that ideas from. That can only be solved when the economy grows.

 

[daveza]

Lest I forget what was stolen from my forefathers.

Must have been something they owned and paid for so what was it ?

 

[ngwe23]

Always mistook you for making well reasoned arguments despite your surly manner. But you're verging on bigotry here.

I find that they always show their true colors when presented with an argument which is not consistent with their world views.

 

[rwenzori]

I find that they always show their true colors when presented with an argument which is not consistent with their world views.

Orly? "They" being whiteys?

I am quite happy to defend my views against your arguments, as long as you are prepared for your own views to get a bit of a challenge, and as long as you respond civilly and rationally instead of ducking and diving as is your wont.

 

[ToxicBunny]

I find that they always show their true colors when presented with an argument which is not consistent with their world views.

Not consistent with their world views?

How about not consistent with history....

 

[ngwe23]

As a matter of interest, land that was voluntarily given or sold by Kings (like Shaka), is that included in the stolen category?

No it does not! But I was talking more about this. http://www.sahistory.org.za/topic/list-laws-land-dispossession-and-segregation

 

[ngwe23]

No it does not! But I was talking more about this. http://www.sahistory.org.za/topic/list-laws-land-dispossession-and-segregation

Btw what was stolen from us in not just land.

 

[ngwe23]

Must have been something they owned and paid for so what was it ?

Freedom

 

[Xarog]

That is because BEE is not meant to solve unemployment problem. I have no ideas where you got that ideas from. That can only be solved when the economy grows.

Proving once again that the ANC can't see the forest for the trees, arguing over who should own the forest while the trees burn.

Tell me: Aside from redistribution, what does the "black" political movement in its entirety offer in terms of real solutions to the real problems facing everyone? What do you offer? Do you need to be taught how to be creative? Or entrepreneurial? Or how to go about spotting opportunities?

If a man living in a rural area wants to keep his tribal system because it's his culture, should he not expect that he will find himself at a distinct disadvantage when he moves into a setting with a different culture? Is his ignorance not his choice? At what point do black people suck it up and take personal responsibility for their predicaments; not because they haven't suffered, but because at some point you have to make peace with the fact that productive change is the only thing that's ever going to change things for the better? Is it not learned helplessness to repeat the dogma ad nauseam that black people can't excel because their disadvantages have not been addressed? Do they have no advantages whatsoever?

 

[Spizz]

Btw what was stolen from us in not just land.

You've mentioned land a few times. Do you think that land ownership is the answer to lifting the majority? And if so, what will the people do with their land?