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[Dave]

It is amazing the length you would go to just to maintain the status quo of white people dominating blacks.

You really have quite a racist outlook, don't you?

 

[rwenzori]

It is amazing the length you would go to just to maintain the status quo of white people dominating blacks.

Er... are you forgetting about the fact we have had a black government for decades now? ?? ????

 

[ngwe23]

Sure, there was an exclusionary process involved. But you still had to do the "cushy" job. And believe it or not, your boss expected you to do your damn job.

And who said we are advocating for something different? Jumping to conclusions again.

Ah yes, but the whites are privileged, remember? So we need to accomodate for that in the qualifications to make it fair, don't we? And politically, if the reason for failure can be blamed on the lack of privilege, so much the better, no?

I never said anything about "accommodating for qualification". I think I said same qualification or something to that effect. No need to twist my words.

 

[Xarog]

Thanks for proving my point. It is amazing the length you would go to just to maintain the status quo of white people dominating blacks.

No. I don't care about white people dominating blacks. I think people should stop dominating each other. The only way we as a species is ever going to survive in the long run is if we cooperate.

The objection I have has nothing to do with race. I object that the mindset and the behaviour pattern causes lines in the sand to be drawn that sets up pointless and self-sustaining conflicts that hurt everyone. It isn't healthy, and it is in none of our interests. It is quite possible to speak of helping the disadvantaged and ensuring that everyone is sufficiently advantaged to compete without having to resort to racial descriptions of any kind. If we want to help the people who are in real need of help, then we should start by describing the problem in such a way that describes the actual problem instead of trying to convince everyone that it is a symptom of a different problem.

BEE is not a punishment. It was setup to advance the prospects of black people. Enough with the butthurt already.

Shifting the goalposts again. I did not claim that I thought BEE was a punishment. I said that it's unreasonable to hold my ancestors to account for things they had no power over.

Though the fact remains that BEE is a real economic policy, with real consequences. It is not "butthurt" to point out when these very real consequences cause real problems and yield results that can only be called counter-productive.

 

[ngwe23]

Er... are you forgetting about the fact we have had a black government for decades now? ?? ????

2 decades. How long did it take the previous government to entrench while privilege.

 

[Xarog]

And who said we are advocating for something different? Jumping to conclusions again.

I'll get back to this point soon.

I never said anything about "accommodating for qualification". I think I said same qualification or something to that effect. No need to twist my words.

Yes, but according to your argument, white privilege means that a black person isn't going to score as well in the classroom, doesn't it? It means they have to work harder to get the same marks. Because they have socioeconomic problems that white people don't have to deal with, right? Are you saying that the black people should be held to the same standards in this regard irresepctive of skin colour?

 

[rwenzori]

2 decades. How long did it take the previous government to entrench while privilege.

So what? The truth is that at this time blacks dominate whites - in politics and in government. Whites, as a minority, are effectively disenfranchised.

 

[ngwe23]

Yes, but according to your argument, white privilege means that a black person isn't going to score as well in the classroom, doesn't it? It means they have to work harder to get the same marks. Because they have socioeconomic problems that white people don't have to deal with, right? Are you saying that the black people should be held to the same standards in this regard irresepctive of skin colour?

Hey, I said what I said. Stop doing a rain dance to find some hidden meaning. My statement was blunt and not ambiguous.

 

[ngwe23]

So what? The truth is that at this time blacks dominate whites - in politics and in government. Whites, as a minority, are effectively disenfranchised.

What is the point of political power if you are hungry?

 

[Xarog]

Hey, I said what I said. Stop doing a rain dance to find some hidden meaning. My statement was blunt and not ambiguous.

It's not your statement I am questioning, it is your principles.

 

[ngwe23]

It's not your statement I am questioning, it is your principles.

My statement reflects my principles. So same difference.

 

[Grant]

2 decades. How long did it take the previous government to entrench while privilege.

jirre koek - is dit jy alweer gwen ?

 

[Xarog]

My statement reflects my principles. So same difference.

Then how come I don't know to what degree you support ensuring that the system makes up for previous/present disadvantage?

 

[ngwe23]

jirre koek - is dit jy alweer gwen ?

Hold on while I get a translation.

 

[rwenzori]

What is the point of political power if you are hungry?

I was merely pointing out your lie:

It is amazing the length you would go to just to maintain the status quo of white people dominating blacks.

 

[ngwe23]

I was merely pointing out your lie:

Nope, can't see the lie. Try again.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

So what? The truth is that at this time blacks dominate whites - in politics and in government. Whites, as a minority, are effectively disenfranchised.

And whites dominate blacks economically. Their wealth exploded post apartheid. Lowest unemployment of all racial groups, highest levels of education, etc.

Whites have it pretty good for being 'disenfranchised' and 'dominated'.

 

[biometrics]

... white people dominating blacks.

Nonsense.

 

[The Voice]

And whites dominate blacks economically. Their wealth exploded post apartheid. Lowest unemployment of all racial groups, highest levels of education, etc.

Whites have it pretty good for being 'disenfranchised' and 'dominated'.

Could be that we're looking after our own, because let's be honest, no-one else is going to do it for us. Unlike the majority of the country that is being butt****ed to hell and back by the black government it put in power. Keep them there and they'll continue to suffer, Zupta and his cronies will continue to suck the country dry, and they'll all continue to blame the whites for their own failings. If a black person is hungry, uneducated and poor in 2016, it's because of HIS government. The baas is long gone! Thank your new masters for the mess you're in.

I read somewhere that the fact that Zuma is in power isn't actually the problem. The real problem is the millions of people who thought it'd be a good idea to put him there in the first place.

 

[rwenzori]

And whites dominate blacks economically. Their wealth exploded post apartheid. Lowest unemployment of all racial groups, highest levels of education, etc.

Whites have it pretty good for being 'disenfranchised' and 'dominated'.

And no say in decisions at municipal, provincial, national level, while being governed by halfwits. Taxation without representation.

Is "dominate" the right term w.r.t. economics? Doing better, sure. What about those in govt. where vast numbers of blacks are given sheltered employment just as the Nats did for Afrikaners?