[The Register] UK electricity tariffs are among world's most expensive

[The_Librarian]

UK electricity tariffs are among the world's most expensive

And the cheapest? Libya

www.theregister.com

 

[Lupus]

Remember guys, renewables are cheap and bring cheap prices.

Lot of CCTG usage there.

 

[Sinbad]

"For the UK, the researchers looked at 60 tariffs, which resulted in an average of $0.251 per kW"

Not if you need to open a new account. Cheapest I can get is about 30p per kwh.

 

[PaulMurkin]

Expensive in ZAR
Normal to average in GBP...

 

[Sinbad]

Expensive in ZAR
Normal to average in GBP...

A year ago, electricity was about 14p/kwh and gas 3p/kwh
I am now paying 32 and 9 respectively.

Stupid ****ing greenies and their strident demands to stay away from reliable sources.

 

[Cube3]

Wait till all those wind turbines start to rust.....

 

[PaulMurkin]

A year ago, electricity was about 14p/kwh and gas 3p/kwh
I am now paying 32 and 9 respectively.

Stupid ****ing greenies and their strident demands to stay away from reliable sources.

So how big a chunk does that take out your paycheck?

 

[Sinbad]

So how big a chunk does that take out your paycheck?

A noticeable one.

I use about 300kwh of electricity and 600kwh of gas per month in winter. So about £160, plus the standing charges which come to another £20 or so.

Interestingly, water is pretty cheap - 74p/kl - we use about 8kl per month for a total of about £6. Sewerage is another story. They assume 90% of the water you use goes down the sewer, and then klap you £2/kl for that.

Rates and taxes - council tax - is also a bastard. £1800 per annum on this house, so it will be about £150 a month. However, it's pro-rated when you move in, but still needs to be paid by the same time. So I have 2 months to pay a £1000 bill (because it took them months to get the account opened). Going to PK the cashflow for a while

 

[Lupus]

A year ago, electricity was about 14p/kwh and gas 3p/kwh
I am now paying 32 and 9 respectively.

Stupid ****ing greenies and their strident demands to stay away from reliable sources.

Hey but renewables is cheaper... I mean they keep telling us that.

 

[Lupus]

A noticeable one.

I use about 300kwh of electricity and 600kwh of gas per month in winter. So about £160, plus the standing charges which come to another £20 or so.

Interestingly, water is pretty cheap - 74p/kl - we use about 8kl per month for a total of about £6. Sewerage is another story. They assume 90% of the water you use goes down the sewer, and then klap you £2/kl for that.

Rates and taxes - council tax - is also a bastard. £1800 per annum on this house, so it will be about £150 a month. However, it's pro-rated when you move in, but still needs to be paid by the same time. So I have 2 months to pay a £1000 bill (because it took them months to get the account opened). Going to PK the cashflow for a while

Big change in electrical usage compared to SA right? Though I guess the gas usage may compensate some?

 

[Sinbad]

Big change in electrical usage compared to SA right? Though I guess the gas usage may compensate some?

I used about 500kwh/month in SA, but that's because I had a 3.3kw solar array, and used solar and gas for hot water and cooking.
The electricity usage here comes mainly from the washing machine, dishwasher and tumble dryer.
Oven is electric, stovetop is gas as is all hot water including the central heating.

 

[PaulMurkin]

A noticeable one.

I use about 300kwh of electricity and 600kwh of gas per month in winter. So about £160, plus the standing charges which come to another £20 or so.

Interestingly, water is pretty cheap - 74p/kl - we use about 8kl per month for a total of about £6. Sewerage is another story. They assume 90% of the water you use goes down the sewer, and then klap you £2/kl for that.

Rates and taxes - council tax - is also a bastard. £1800 per annum on this house, so it will be about £150 a month. However, it's pro-rated when you move in, but still needs to be paid by the same time. So I have 2 months to pay a £1000 bill (because it took them months to get the account opened). Going to PK the cashflow for a while

I was specifically interested in the electricity bill but thanks anyway. I wouldn't live there anyway...
Wages suck in that part of the world so I can imagine its hard to get by

 

[Lupus]

I used about 500kwh/month in SA, but that's because I had a 3.3kw solar array, and used solar and gas for hot water and cooking.
The electricity usage here comes mainly from the washing machine, dishwasher and tumble dryer.
Oven is electric, stovetop is gas as is all hot water including the central heating.

I know about the solar, imagine if you didn't have the array though.

 

[Sinbad]

I was specifically interested in the electricity bill but thanks anyway. I wouldn't live there anyway...
Wages suck in that part of the world so I can imagine its hard to get by

I dunno about suck. Still running a household on a single income, which is below what I should be earning because I took an easy job to land with. Should, touch wood, be increasing my income by 20% in the next few months.

 

[Sinbad]

I know about the solar, imagine if you didn't have the array though.

Before the solar and the geyser, we were at about 1700kwh/month.

 

[Lupus]

With regards to pricing, another "green" area

The High Cost of California Electricity Is Increasing Poverty

California’s poverty rate is the highest in the nation. New energy restrictions will increase electricity costs, making the problem worse.

freopp.org

California’s electricity prices are so high that researchers worry people won’t ditch fossil fuel

The state’s electric rates are now two to three times what it actually costs to produce...

www.sfchronicle.com

Another one

Electricity prices in Germany ranked amongst highest globally

Electricity prices in Germany are some of the most expensive in the world, according to a Verivox study. Germany ranked as the 15th most expensive country, ...

www.iamexpat.de

So where is this lie that renewables is cheap? Oh right it's cheap to initially install them, but all the supporting means to actually keep the electricity flowing costs.

 

[Lupus]

Before the solar and the geyser, we were at about 1700kwh/month.

Wow that's quite a bit, the solar did some savings there.

 

[Sinbad]

Wow that's quite a bit, the solar did some savings there.

The solar geyser made a massive difference. It was an immediate saving of about 700kwh per month.
The PV averaged about 450kwh/month

 

[Lupus]

The solar geyser made a massive difference. It was an immediate saving of about 700kwh per month.
The PV averaged about 450kwh/month

That's something I was looking at, would going completely solar save me money or just the geyser, I'm leaning towards the geyser, which would be next year, if I get a bonus.

 

[wingnut771]

So where is this lie that renewables is cheap? Oh right it's cheap to initially install them, but all the supporting means to actually keep the electricity flowing costs.

Apparently in South Australia.