The SA Politics Thread Part 2

[wingnut771]

They had guns.

Whatever.

 

[ghaye]

Why don't you tell him yourself, afraid he'll punch you on the nose?

I doubt he could fall of a chair unaided. Why do you think he's always surrounded by body guards?
You're the one telling us not to march on somebodies house. YOU should be telling those that use it as weapon, not us.

 

[TheChamp]

I doubt he could fall of a chair unaided. Why do you think he's always surrounded by body guards?
You're the one telling us not to march on somebodies house. YOU should be telling those that use it as weapon, not us.

Drunk ramblings on such a fine Sunday? Some people have no shame. I never said anything about him being constantly sorrounded by bodyguards.

 

[TheChamp]

Respect goes both ways. The ANC doesn't respect the house of SA.

Let it be on record that I tried to avert bloodshed on the Pixley ka Isaka Seme street.

 

[dj2381]

Marching to another man's house is an unprovoked act of terror, we really should stop encouraging such reckless behaviour.

This is not a man's house, this is a criminal organization.

 

[TheChamp]

Transnet revealed as biggest culprit of SOEs owing municipalities

This has been revealed through a reply to a parliamentary question posed by the DA to Public Enterprises Minister Pravin Gordhan.

ewn.co.za

 

[6spdmanual]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614206683500118016

@Priapus
@ToxicBunny
@The_Right_Honourable_Brit
@dj2381
@Oldfut

A day late, but I’m genuinely concerned at the potential turnout. You know Jozi CBD isn’t a great place to be.

 

[3WA]

ANC structures ordered to stop fighting | City Press

In an effort to renew and rebuild its structures from the bottom up, the ANC has ordered the Free State provincial and regional leaders to stop fighting.

www.news24.com

In an effort to renew and rebuild its structures from the bottom up, the ANC has ordered the Free State provincial and regional leaders to stop fighting. This comes as endless political squabbles have characterised branch meetings and divided the party.

Sometimes, complicated problems require simple solutions.

 

[sefeddt]

Shell house massacre is etched in my memory. On the day of the incident I was working in a building overlooking Library Gardens (quite a distance from Shell House) which was the main assembly point for the IFP. On my way to work I had to walk through hundreds, which later became thousands of men, and some women, dressed mostly in Zulu attire and traditional weapons. While they appeared adrenalized, I walked through with no issues. Later I heard gun shot's followed by screaming outside, sliding to the window I peered out and and saw the mayhem below caused by one or many snipers firing into the crowds. Who was behind the snipers was never determined but I have little doubt. In the aftermath of further shots fired at Shell house, the police were prevented from entering to investigate.

African National Congress (ANC) security guards at Shell House killed nineteen Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) members following a tip-off that IFP marchers were planning to attack the building. The Nugent Commission of Inquiry on what actually caused the shooting rejected this explanation. The commission's conclusion was that the shooting by ANC guards was unjustified

19 die at Shell House massacre | South African History Online

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614602872469000192

Yes Dawie, I think we all get that. Opposition parties do not have access to the levers of the state.

 

[sefeddt]

They had guns.

That's what the ANC claim to justify their slaughter. I saw none and there was enough security on the day.

 

[TheChamp]

It was a perfect plan, organize a marrch, in the process of that storm Shell House, kill the ANC leaders in there and the National Party police will pretend to be doing something while making sure the IFP lowlifes got enough time to do what they wanted to do, at the end of it all it would have just been the IFP and the ANC were fighting amongst themselves and unfortunately in the chaos senior ANC leaders were killed.

It was a perfect plan indeed, Cosmik Debris would be here, telling us the National Party had nothing to do with it.

 

[Galactica]

That's what the ANC claim to justify their slaughter. I saw none and there was enough security on the day.

Assuming they had none, storming a building armed with pangas, assegais, knives etc made them a threat to human life and no less than Mandela's life.

 

[Galactica]

It was a perfect plan, organize a marrch, in the process of that storm Shell House, kill the ANC leaders in there and the National Party police will pretend to be doing something while making sure the IFP lowlifes got enough time to do what they wanted to do, at the end of it all it would have just been the IFP and the ANC were fighting amongst themselves and unfortunately in the chaos senior ANC leaders were killed.

It was a perfect plan indeed, Cosmik Debris would be here, telling us the National Party had nothing to do with it.

Actually imagine if Shell House had not been defended and leaders including Mandela were murdered, the fallout in the country would have been unimaginable.

 

[TheChamp]

Actually imagine if Shell House had not been defended and leaders including Mandela were murdered, the fallout in the country would have been unimaginable.

Exactly, but the IFP have always been useful idiots to the NP regime, maybe the unfortunate masses in their stupidity were not aware what they were involved in but the organizers of that march knew exactly what they were doing.

 

[sefeddt]

Actually imagine if Shell House had not been defended and leaders including Mandela were murdered, the fallout in the country would have been unimaginable.

Yeah, just plain garbage.

 

[TheChamp]

Assuming they had none, storming a building armed with pangas, assegais, knives etc made them a threat to human life and no less than Mandela's life.

An IFP protest in those days and no one had a gun? Of course the guns were there, it was only the useful idiots from the hostel who gave the pretense that it was just a regular IFP March with spears, pangas and other primitive weapons.

 

[sefeddt]

It was a perfect plan, organize a marrch, in the process of that storm Shell House, kill the ANC leaders in there and the National Party police will pretend to be doing something while making sure the IFP lowlifes got enough time to do what they wanted to do, at the end of it all it would have just been the IFP and the ANC were fighting amongst themselves and unfortunately in the chaos senior ANC leaders were killed.

It was a perfect plan indeed, Cosmik Debris would be here, telling us the National Party had nothing to do with it.

Source for this. ? Or is it another @TheChamp make believe. A commission of enquiry chaired by a judge found it BS.

 

[Galactica]

Exactly, but the IFP have always been useful idiots to the NP regime, maybe the unfortunate masses in their stupidity were not aware what they were involved in but the organizers of that march knew exactly what they were doing.

Yes it was planned, they as the useful idiots of Buthelezi and NP/Apartheid government committed a lot of the murders that Cosmic Debris and other verkrampte blame on the ANC.

 

[Galactica]

An IFP protest in those days and no one had a gun? Of course the guns were there, it was only the useful idiots from the hostel who gave the pretense that it was just a regular IFP March with spears, pangas and other primitive weapons.

It's impossible (the footage of IFP guns is there), just trying to engage and demonstrate to this dizzy poster that defense would still have been justified even if they had no guns.