The saga continues...

Arzy

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Oh well, so my saga continues:

To continue from my original post, I have now been without an internet connection at home for 8 days now. I originally reported the fault on Sunday the 28th of November and to date, Monday 6 December, I have had 4 telkom technicians at my home and spent close on 7 hours holding on either listening to tech supports telephone ringing or that horrid little melody they play.

I have tried almost everything I could think of now, I have even been calling the main technician dispatch in pretoria to try and get something done. Unfortunately it is true that Telkom is absolutely useless and wouldn't know what customer care was if it walked up and punched them in the face.

Anyone who tried to call the Telkom ADSL support center this weekend will know what I am talking about. My fault was already reported, so I just wanted to check the progress(option number 3 on their little menu of choices). In the event that the line wasn't engaged it would just ring for ages, I was actually having a game of it, watching just how long I could let the line ring. The longest I was able to keep it ringing was 11 minutes, then someone at the call center picked it up and put it down again.

Now to recap, I have now had 4 technicians at my home during the week, Thabo, Desmond, Roelf and Charls. The last time they actually came into my house it was decided that the error was with my modem and I should go an replace it. This was on firday night, I had my modem replace by 9:30 on saturday morning, I had my fault reported again by 11:00. It was at this point that Telkom decided that I had commited a crime, judged me, found me guilty and placed me under House Arrest. Yes, House Arrest. I was placed under house arrest for simply wanting to have my ADSL line repaired.

From Saturday morning at 11:00 I was told to stay at home and wait because a technician was comming to fix my line. When trying to call ANYONE to try and find out when he was going to be there my calls were unanswered. When I did eventually get through the times it would take a technician to get to me ranged from, 20 minutes, an hour, an hour and a half or my personal favorite, there already was a technician at my address and nobody opened for him. When I heard this I snapped, as I had been sitting next to my TV all day, from my television room I can actually see my gate and in addition I have CCTV cameras installed around the house with a screen for the gate next to my television. There is no way on earth that someone could come to my gate and I could not see them. After explaining this to the person that was handling my call I was cut off. No response, nothing. She simply put the phone down. This was at 14:00.

It took me to 18:00 again for someone at Telkom to answer the phone. The entire ADSL Support Center seemed to be ignoring my number for this entire period so I was simply dialing 10212 and getting them to try and get hold of someone at ADSL support, on average it took about 8-15 minutes per call just to get someone in ADSL on the line. At this point I was simply told that they couldn't help me and they were putting me through to Fault Status where someone would help me. In 4 hours I was able to speak to a person in the fault status checking thing once. She was obnoxious, rude and untrained to do her job and she simply told me the next avaliable technician would come to my house. I had now been waiting since 11:00 because the technician was already on his way...

During this period I was harrassing the technician dispatch center, but they seem to also just stop answering any calls after a while, so do the people at the escalation center.

At 20:00 I finally recieved a call from Telkom, a technician was on his way and would be there in about an hour or an hour and a half.

At 21:15 the technician himself called and said he was still in springs but would still come to my house that night. I had simply given up at this point and asked him what he thought he was going to do in the dark. He considered this and then rather nicely asked if he could be at my house first thing on sunday morning. I said sure and went to cry.

So Sunday morning arrives and at 8:00 Telkom calls, a good start I would think, I was told that my technician was on his way to my house and would be there in 10 minutes and I should just wait. I waited, at 10 I called and was told my technician was dispatched and would be at my house shortly. At 12 I called and was told my technician had just gotten off the highway near my house. At 13:00 I went for lunch at my girlfriend, Telkom called and said they were near my home. At 14:00 I went home and Telkom called and said they were almost there. At 15:00 my girlfriend showed up and said there was a Telkom truck on the corner of my street but the guys were sitting on the wall smoking and eating. I opened my gate and walked out to them, they got in their truck and drove away. I called Telkom, explained what happened and was told, "Oh, the technician just need to check the exchange quickly". At 17:00 Telkom called again.

Originally Thabo was my technician, he said the fault was at the exchange, supposedly fixed it and my line was working for 3 hours while I was at work. Then came Desmond, he said the problem was with my line in the house, he supposedly fixed it, my line was working for 6 hours while I was at work. The came Roelf, firstly the error was that my exchange was stuck by lightning then he said it was my modem, I went to get a new one, it still didn't work. Then it was Charls, he was supposed to have come to my house on sunday, when Telkom called at 17:00 I was told there was a cable fault somewhere and nothing could be done till today. I am now waiting to see again if anything will happen.

I had to spend the entire weekend at home simply because I wanted my line fixed...nobody ever came...I am now going to start calling again and God help who ever answers the phone.
 
ARZY - as a matter of interest, what area are you in?
 
Crazy.
Don't you ever work for Teklom again.
Simply give them your cell number and wait for a call from the techie.
Do not try to chase a teckie from the service centre, the service centre does not know what's going on.
Every morning, raise a new fault report and record the order number until it's fixed.
Once its fixed, phone accounts and give them the order numbers for each day so that they can refund you.

This worked for me last year and it was advice from a techie.
 
In my telephone directory on page 18 is a "resolving your complaints" section.

You should have escalated the problem by calling 080 060 0126

I do this standard procedure when a fault has not been rectified within a working day.
Usually they request your reference number and often will ask you to fax them your complaint.

The people at this number has amazing abilities to get things working in no time at all.
 
I'm in the Alberton area, Alberante to be specific. The saddest part is I can walk too the area dispatch center and exchange from my house within 10 minutes, so I don't see how it takes them an entire weekend to get to my house.
 
That is even more shocking, I would call the number Kaspaas suggested and ask them if they need directions - you can hand deliver the directions on foot within 15mins.

Shocking!!!
 
I actually did dial that number Kaspaas, on Wednesday as well as on Friday. It seems to not have helped at all. I have even been dialing my region manager directly to try and get him to get someone to do something. That only resulted in a call from the ADSL support center saying that they recieved a call from the manager and they take note of my complaint, then asking if they can call him back and say that the issue has been resolved and everything is now fine and dandy...to which I replied that they could go to hell and I would call him and inform him that they regard the issue as resolved simply because they called me.
 
Just out of interest - have you flown off the handle and shouted and sworn at people at any point during your saga ?

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying any of this has anything to do with you, just that I know from experience it's not a good idea to do this.

If you haven't shouted and sworn at anyone, maybe it's time to do so.
You also have immense patience ! :)
 
In general I'm an extremely patient person, I haven't seen the point thus far yet to go off at one of the call center staff simply because in truth, they know nothing and do nothing else than what they are told. They simply sit there, take in reports for faults and on occasion pick up the phone to tell someone the progress of their reported fault. So no, to them I have at most been sarcastic when I just couldn't take it anymore.

The person at the Technician Dispatch Center and my Region Manager have had an ear full though. I simply don't have patience with either of them, because I feel that they are directly related to my problem.

I called the normal support center again this morning though, they actually did answer and the person who answered actually did call me back. She couldn't tell me much though, a team has been dispatched to work on the cable that's affecting me, but she can't find out how they are progressing because they don't have a cell phone...
 
Well I finally managed to get my telkom line sorted ( by sorted I mean ripped out of the earth). Look the technician in the eye and tell him that you administer company x's (x=major bank or retailer of your choice) servers and that given the fact that you now know his name it shouldn't be hard at all to track down his address.

Then propose to him that he fix that line before you are forced to travel to his place of residence, douse it with petrol and then shoot anyone fleeing the building and then salt the earth to prevent anything from ever growing there. They won't ever come back, but they do their level best to keep you happy while they are there.
 
Interesting possibility:

When reading some of the rulings with ASA (www.asasa.org.za), there is quite often the issue of items that were advertised and "out of stock" when people tried to purchase it. This is an "offence" in the view of ASA.

Maybe you could stretch your predicament that Telkom advertises ADSL, but can't even deliver a decent service as advertised to current clients with a request that Telkom has to pull their adverts until they can service existing and new clients.

I know this is a wild one, but it might just work. It will at least create some friction between marketing/sales and technical :-)
 
Kaspaas,

you are onto something there, I actually think we need to create a new STICKY thread somewhere just for ASA regulations, create a checklist of sorts that us folk can use to nail the likes of Telkom etc.

I would go so far as to suggest that we all co-ordinate a simultaneous multitude of complaints about the same thing to the ASA, perhaps we need a sub-forum area for complaints lodged with the ASA.

The same probably applies to complaints lodged with ICASA, separate forum, co-ordinated complaints etc.

:)
 
So Monday has passed, someone did go out and fix the line that was causing trouble, Telkom called and asked me to check if my line was working now, I was at work and said I would check when I got home, they said they would call me later...They didn't call, instead they signed off on my fault and merely viewed it as completed.

I did eventually get home though, my line still wasn't working, I now had to report a new fault as the old one was signed off. This further entails that I now have to wait for the next avaliable technician again as I now have a new fault that has only been outstanding a couple of hours.

I honestly don't know what to do anymore now, the ADSL support center is a joke, having my fault escalated and prioritised does nothing, the technician who was repsonsible says he can do nothing now until the fault is assigned to him again, the technician dispatch center merely states that there is a backlog of faults and they'll eventually send someone to me.

The funniest thing in all this is, I have now 5 technicians assigned, each one of them couldn't fix my line. Each one of them signed off on the fault as completed without me actually confirming that it was. Each time I have had to report again and wait to be assigned again. Its almost like it company policy to leave everything half done.

I'm actually wondering if Telkom can fix this fault at all, its almost like their avoiding it because they don't know what to do.

How long does it take to have Sentech or iBurst installed?
 
You ain't gonna like this!

Hi Arzy, as per my heading you ain't gonna like this. I live in New Redruth, about a stone throw away from you. Anyway after the thunder storm we had on Sunday my ADSL line went a little nuts, voice portion went completely dead (funny enough my previous problem the ADSL went completely dead). Phoned them on Sunday night to report the problem, and got a techie out here today who sorted out my problem (hell he stayed till 9 PM at the exchange calling me every 30 min or so with an update).

I would suggest you climb down Telkoms throat about your problem, don't see how they can fix my line and not yours and you live like a couple of blocks away from me. Anyway good luck with your Telkom encounter, just remember give them hell.
 
Your more than right in that, I can't say that I like it, but so it goes. Telkom actually did send someone out to my house this morning. I just spoke to him over the phone. Then I called customer care.

Yes, Telkom did send out someone...they couldn't send the guy who was there yesterday, as he was out on another call....so they sent someone else...he arrived at my home, took one look and promptly left again. The reason for this is that he isn't trained to do work on ADSL. I don't know how they do this. I didn't report my landline, I reported my ADSL line. This should have been on their systems...
 
A plan

1 .Order sucktech,
2. Get aproximate installation date
3. Go and buy +-10 metres of 3 core 2.5mm2 cabtyre.
4. Disconnect all you telephones and modems etc.
5. Take telkom incoming box apart.
6. Disconnect from Female RJ11 connector.
7. Connect the brown wire from cabtyre to one of the pretty telkrap wires
8. Connect the blue wire from Cabtyre to other pretty telkrap wire.
9. Plug other end into a wall socket and switch it on with a wooden broom stick.
10 . Disconnect and discard all cable after the smoke clears and call the techies from your cell phone and tell them to come and remove there debri.
11. Calm all animals and neighbours down
12. Reset earth leakage and mains switch
13. Have a beer and see it as a job well done!

Obviously the above is all said in jest but man I feel for you cos I went through a similar event a while ago. Maybe we should coin another phrase to rival "Going postal" . Maybe "going telco"
 
I have actually gotten this issue sort of resolved now. After fuming about it that Telkom sent a normal line tech to my house, I once again started calling. I followed the procedure as set out in the telephone guide and on the website.

I called ADSL Tech Support and made sure my fault was still reported. (0800 375 375, option 4)
I called ADSL Tech Support to check progress on my fault( 0800 375 375, option 3), the person said they would call me back.
I called ADSL Tech Support and asked to speak to either a supervisor or manager, both were busy/dead/out, I was told I would be called back(0800 375 375, option 3)
I called Regional Customer Care and stated my problem and that nobody else had called be back, they said they would check and would call me(0800 600 126)
I called Regional Customer care and asked to speak to either a supervisor or manager, both were busy/dead/out, I was told they would call back(0800 600 126)
I called the Telkom Technician Dispatch Center in Pretoria, explained problem etc. and was told they would dispatch someone and call me back.
I called the Telkom Dispatch here in Alberton on their emergency number, explained problem and was told they would dispatch someone and call me back.
I called Telkom Accounts and said I wanted to cancel my ADSL line.(10210)

I really didn't see the point of contacting either the CEO of Telkom or ICASA after customer care. Between each of the calls I waited the time the person on the phone said it would take before they called me back before calling the next number.

The strangest thing happened though when I called accounts and said I wanted to cancel, they asked why, I explained they said they would just like to put me through to someone who could possibly help me before I made my final decision. Suddenly I'm speaking too someone else, he asks for my details and the fault details, says he will call me back in 15 minutes and gives me a number to call him on if he doesn't. 14 minutes later he calls back, a technician would be at my house at 12:00. Just after 12:00 I get a call again, the technician is at my house busy working, he wanted to speak to me to explain the problem and what he was doing about it.

I just got another call from home to get my username/password as I don't use Telkom as an ISP and if all goes well I should be able to use my line when I get home tonight. I'm sceptical about that, but I'll see.

So yes, in the end something is being done, I just don't understand why it has to take from the 28th of November until today, 8 December, for Telkom to finally send out someone to my house that seems to know what he's doing.

11 days can seem like a reasonable time to wait for some, unfortunately for me I try and do my fathers accounting for his farm from my home and for that I require the net at home. 11 days constitutes near suicide if you pay weekly wages and you can't do deposits and have to send someone with cash. Or it means that drivers do double work because I have to send them to town twice for one item, once to order and once to collect, normally they order I get faxed the invoice, pay and fax back proof and the drivers go home with the item. These are rather small examples, but they happen weekly/daily and are unfortunately required to run the farm. Not paying means no work. Not being able to send a driver means there are no seedlings for my planters to plant, or poles for the people building the new fence etc. So not only is it and inconvenience its also a loss of productivity and revenue...

But oh well, their working on the line now, I'll see what its like when I get home. I just think it sad that I have to call to cancel my line before it gets fixed and I wish there was someone else I could go too instead of Telkom that can deliver a realiable service with decent speed. I think that's one of my biggest issues, when my line worked everything was fine and dandy, when something went wrong it was an absolute ordeal to do anything about it.
 
I wonder what my liability would be if I did what Billy suggests.
Teklom arent liable for anything.
Maybee you can trick a Teklom teckie into switching it on, then they're liable.
Oh well - daydreaming of revenge ...
 
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