The South African coding courses can net you a starting salary of up to R300,000

[cguy]

Pretry much what I said.

Yes, a qualification helps.

Still, if you grew up with DOS or Linux then you are already way ahead of the curve as a start.

Agreed. To clarify, my point is simply that no matter how much DOS/Linux/WebDev experience a person may have, it's unlikely that they're going to be able to work as a quantitative developer, write physics solvers, build new compiler tech, do semiconductor design, etc. It's all theoretically doable of course, but very few people are going to do the equivalent of 3-4 years university study on their own time.

 

[netstrider]

Agreed. To clarify, my point is simply that no matter how much DOS/Linux/WebDev experience a person may have, it's unlikely that they're going to be able to work as a quantitative developer, write physics solvers, build new compiler tech, do semiconductor design, etc. It's all theoretically doable of course, but very few people are going to do the equivalent of 3-4 years university study on their own time.

Yes, I agree 100%.

The majority of people are not doing that.

EDIT: To clarify, I do realise the skills you mention is needed.

SA, and a lot of the world, is in a dire position for a failure to move on from resources and commodities as drivers for the economy.

 

[gboy]

But for the price they asking you can get one of those Stanford / Harvard courses in AI or data analysis and learn something decent.

 

[Beri]

who Can live on that low salary?

 

[randomcat]

who Can live on that low salary?

*cries in lower salary*

 

[^^vampire^^]

Remember when MyBB was a credible source of information. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

 

[stroudmw]

I did a COBOL programming course at Control Data Institute in Joburg. My starting salary was R1000. That was in about 1985 or 6. I don't know what R1000 is worth today.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

I did a COBOL programming course at Control Data Institute in Joburg. My starting salary was R1000. That was in about 1985 or 6. I don't know what R1000 is worth today.

Assuming an average of 5% inflation it would be 1000 x 1.05^35

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Remember when MyBB was a credible source of information. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

mybb.co.za isn't mybroadband.co.za anymore

 

[MirageF1]

I did a COBOL programming course at Control Data Institute in Joburg. My starting salary was R1000. That was in about 1985 or 6. I don't know what R1000 is worth today.

Likewise started my first job in 1990 at ISM ( ex IBM S.A) as a trainee IBM systems engineer (AIX, CAD) for the whopping sum of R3250 p/m. Best company I worked for since. Went on more training courses in 3 years than in the last 25.

Good ol' days.

 

[rietrot]

Any training company making those kinds of claims is talking absolute nonsense. You'll be very lucky if you're earning 15K p/m as a junior fresh out of any college, let alone university. If you're entering into a coding academy the assumption is that you don't really know anything about coding going in.

Trust me, you'll know barely much more after coming out. You'll have TONS to learn. Maybe you'll better understand some fundamentals which will help set you up for the future, but no chance are you going to be an effective developer if you've never done it before without at least 2 years of prior experience.

If you want to code, and want to learn coding, and you have access to a PC and the Internet, then just learn to do it yourself, don't go to these coding bootcamps, they won't teach you anything you can't teach yourself with a bit of initiative and effort, and the more you teach and push yourself the more you'll learn. The vast majority of highly effective engineers I've met in my career were self taught prior to ever doing any studies.

I mostly agree. But a structured course can be really helpful to some people who struggle to get started and are confused by a DIY approach.

But there's cheap and free coding courses online. I haven't bothered to open the OP and check out what they are actually selling.

 

[cguy]

I did a COBOL programming course at Control Data Institute in Joburg. My starting salary was R1000. That was in about 1985 or 6. I don't know what R1000 is worth today.

Apparently R3034.

https://inflationcalc.co.za/?date1=2000-01-01&date2=2020-11-26&amount=1000

My late 90's job extrapolating would be R62k/m. Not too bad for straight out of university!

Of course, I'd take these estimates with a pinch of salt.