The "teenage experience" - If you didn't have it, have you missed out?

[Morgoth]

same **** here man, 19 at the moment as well, basically getting drunk a few times was enough for me, tbh I see it more as a school kind of thing and lets face it parties aren't all that I mean honestly if you sum it up its a bunch of people drinking, chatting, dancing and occasionally banging all night all, it feels like a waste of time and really its fun for once in awhile but I don't see myself spending money doing it weekend in and out as most of my friends do, I guess we grew out of it more quickly then they did,

 

[Peder]

i'm sorry but I need to pick ur brain some more here...but...WHY don't you like it? honestly now, I seriously can't understand why a Male wouldn't like those places...

have you seen some of the women there?!

I love my PC too, the odd IMing, gaming, surfing and even programming - but c'mon, you guys need to try it a bit more / go out with clubbing friends and party PROPERLY.

I can't help but feel bad, cause you really ARE missing out guys...I'm not joking

You meaning to say its all about the sex?

Why must you party PROPERLY? What is the definition of enjoying yourself?

Maybe you are missing out on those plain and simple friendships ?

 

[The Axe Dude]

i'm sorry but I need to pick ur brain some more here...but...WHY don't you like it? honestly now, I seriously can't understand why a Male wouldn't like those places...

have you seen some of the women there?!

I love my PC too, the odd IMing, gaming, surfing and even programming - but c'mon, you guys need to try it a bit more / go out with clubbing friends and party PROPERLY.

I can't help but feel bad, cause you really ARE missing out guys...I'm not joking

Well, when I think of socialising, thats exactly what I want do...be social. For one my friends birthdays, we decided we'd go to a club, a group of about 5 of us (males and females), and...try it out. First of all, we queued for fscking ages to get in. but thats fine, we went to a nearby bar while waiting for the doors and had a few drinks. Half of the group dont drink alcohol, and none of us are smokers, I should point out at this stage.

When we (finally) got into the club, they were playing some noise (I dont listen to dance/techno/anything apart from rock/alternative). Thats ok, we figure we'll stay for a few drinks. We go to queue for drinks, and, half an hour later we all have a drink in our hands...Thank god none of us were dying of thirst.

Ok, so, we go and look around, its a club we havent been to before...It starts filling up...We start to try and talk to each other, however, I could barely even hear my own thoughts. But we stayed, we tried it out, and none of us have been back there since.

I guess what I'm trying to get at, is that what some people might think is the most amazing experience on earth, could be the exact opposite for someone else.

 

[Kitten]

Keeper is certainly passionate about this. It boils down to what you enjoy I suppose.

 

[<moLe>]

NO PEDER ITS NOT JUST ABOUT SEX...its about having a good time..my woman I'm dating loves dancing..god knows I cant, so she dances with her chick friends while I enjoy watching her twist and turn her curves while having a beer with the okes who are suprisingly normally haviing quite intelectual conversations...its called LAPT or life after pc time..haha..its not just SEX

 

[angelik]

i'm also like that....don't see the point of getting drunk all the time, wasting my brain cells and hanging out with people who don't get me isn't my idea of fun at all.. have tried it though

I'd rather chill with a book, good movie and some relaxed and nugter company...

 

[Morgoth]

It comes down to how you are raised tbh, or well for me it played a big role, for example we had a very liberal kind of household, yet none of us smoke , drink to much ( me occasionally with friends I have to admit), have a large collection of porn or anything of some sort, a lot of my friends grew up where these things were forbidden, and was basically raised against it, guess who is getting the highest/ drunkest at parties?> It is just not that "fun" to try something you wont get flamed or in trouble for even though I am sure most parents don't care if you are 18+

 

[Kitten]

Its peoples personalities. Some are the social bunnies who enjoy spending time out with friends, whether it be in the club environment or the pub environment. You then get those who'd prefer to sit at the pc on the net or playing games, and those who prefer to watch tv. I don't think its got anything to do with parenting, just very different personalities.

+1 for partying.

 

[Morgoth]

nah, beer adds personality to many boring people who enjoy partying XD

 

[<moLe>]

I come out of a liberal home aswell, and I turned out the opposite, I drink and smoke sure boo hoo evil **** I know..but I dont take drugs, treat my woman with a certain level of respect (she makes me believe I'm in control, she rocks for doing so)...dont drive when drunk, rarely ever get trashed anymore (university was a different story)..just dont understand how one can live socially locked away

 

[<moLe>]

nah, beer adds personality to many boring people who enjoy partying XD

no, beer just tastes awesome

 

[Keeper]

Axe, i think it's cause you went out with friends that have never been out before - no one to show you the ropes i guess...

Peder i meant PROPERLY as-in:
(A) Have a few drinks extra - standing with a single drink all night (like Axe's example) isn't gonna "magically entertain you all night"
(B) Go out and meet NEW people, chat with REAL people - even if it's another dude at the bar.
(C) Go out and DANCE. if you can't, go back to step (A)
(D) Enjoy it - stop analizing it.

 

[Morgoth]

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[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Well this speech had quite a powerful effect on me, when it was delivered to my school last year by a teacher - not some AA member or anything - i.e. the person doesn't have an "axe to grind". I suppose it doesn't affect people who party with their own money though.

The last time I stood at this lectern in this chapel was to thank the congregation for having attended a memorial service for Monte Taljaard on behalf of his parents, Michelle and Sydney, and I kept thinking of how senseless this death of such a promising young man was. Over the last couple of services, Father Coomer has spent time expounding on greed versus generosity, and in both Monte’s death and the circumstances surrounding it, as well as the aftermath of the funeral and services associated with it, I came to see both sides of this greed and generosity:

greed in the sense of the relentless seeking for pleasure, and the continuous and absolute disregard for social norms and standards.

There is no doubt in my mind that not only is this what resulted in Monte’s demise but that this will continue to result in deaths and the destruction of lives in the future unless we, as a society, are prepared to change our ways. Who benefits from this relentless pursuit of selfish pleasure, do you? Do you really benefit from reversing your sleeping hours on a weekend? Going into a week on a Monday morning carrying a substantial sleep debt which, as a result of your workload here at school, you are surely not likely to be able to recoup very easily? Do you benefit from illegal drinking or the use of other illegal chemical substances? You know the answer to that one even if you are trying to kid yourself that it's great fun.



So who is benefiting? I’ll tell you who - South African Breweries, Distell liquor corporation and club owners and related industries that are fleecing you of your pocket money either earned by yourselves or given to you by your parents. Is it benefiting your social development? Are you better able to relate to members of the opposite sex in a club where you cannot hear them speak or yourselves think and you or both of you are drunk? I don’t think so. In fact, in your greed for selfish pleasure and gratification I believe in many cases the opposite is true that your social interactions are in fact distorted and perverted in that environment.



I am not anti-partying and enjoying yourself. I am not an abolitionist as far as alcohol is concerned either. What I am begging and pleading for here is moderation. Why go out until 3, 4, 5 in the morning? Why get so drunk that hours of your life over a weekend are obliterated from your memory? Why even try out any chemical substance when you know that the literature, which most of you have read many times, is absolutely clear that it will harm you? Would you put your foot under a jack-hammer while it is operating? No - but you put your liver under strain with so much alcohol and other muck that it will be in as much danger as your foot would have been under the jack-hammer. It makes no sense and it is greed - the relentless search for self-indulgence. Get off the merry-go- round and move towards moderation in all you do.



On the other hand, the spirit of generosity and community that was expressed by this college and broader community was nothing short of exceptional. People we had never met before expressing their condolences to the Taljaards and to me and my family at the loss of one so dear. The spontaneous offers of help and of time and care for those involved was superb. Those same people who would be relentlessly seeking pleasure over a period of time in a club or a bar were unbelievably generous in their giving of time and whatever was needed at the time. From financial generosity to offers of accommodation, transport, whatever they could do to help ease the pain.



So how do you explain the apparent contradiction in the human spirit? The only way I can make sense of it all is the concept of choice. We choose to behave in the way we do. Like it or not we choose to be kind when we are kind just as we choose to be selfish and greedy when we are. There is no innate need to drink or to party, just as there is no innate need to be kind and generous of spirit. It is a choice we make.


And so the message I would like to get across this morning is: What I can do to make the right choice? Unfortunately the answer to that is very different for almost everyone but one thing remains constant: however you make the decision whether you consider what someone has told you or whether you think of one of those acronyms (WWJD or FROG) or whatever other method you choose, the basic premise is to think before you choose! Think of consequences of what you are about to do, not only for yourself but for others. If the person driving the car that crashed into Monte had thought for a minute about the consequences of going through a red robot, he might still be with us today. So above all else, think before you make the choice.

 

[Morgoth]

Axe, i think it's cause you went out with friends that have never been out before - no one to show you the ropes i guess...

Peder i meant PROPERLY as-in:
(A) Have a few drinks extra - standing with a single drink all night (like Axe's example) isn't gonna "magically entertain you all night"
(B) Go out and meet NEW people, chat with REAL people - even if it's another dude at the bar.
(C) Go out and DANCE. if you can't, go back to step (A)
(D) Enjoy it - stop analizing it.

Enough usage of step A will eventually get you onto step C.

 

[Kitten]

erk, enough usage of step A will get you anywhere!

and as for that speech, ok.

 

[<moLe>]

sigh...to each his own, dating a girl who dont drink but who digs dancing and she enjoys going out..but that because she is socialite 2008 haha..just dont understand you new kids on the block..my generation I suppose was the last "hardccore truely social" generation..pre emo

 

[<moLe>]

how old are you guy just so by the way?

 

[boramk]

GEEETTT CRUNK YO!!!!

No really, it's the best experience, i LOVE IT.
Call me what you want, I don care ... Hmmm infact this thursday Im getting some wEEeee!

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

sigh...to each his own, dating a girl who dont drink but who digs dancing and she enjoys going out..but that because she is socialite 2008 haha..just dont understand you new kids on the block..my generation I suppose was the last "hardccore truely social" generation..pre emo

I'm not emo ..I don't think often about suicide, not do I cut myself for pleasure.