The trap of nofap

saor

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#1
Don't focus too much on nofap. This is maybe a broader point about addiction and repetitive behavior told through the lens of nofap. Or maybe about life and how we distract ourselves from doing what matters. Or nonsense.

So...nofap: The practice of abstaining from masturbation & porn.

I've noticed a thing where nofap can become a practice of giving a false impression of making progress. Sometimes in life we become stuck in the mud and despite our aspirations to move forward, our inaction leaves us going nowhere with regularity. Nofap introduces an illusory way out of the mud by giving a temporary sense of achievement.

The game is simple: Create a problem to be overcome with an easily accessible 'restart' button.

What's interesting with nofap is the sense that one has oriented oneself to a purpose and is motivated to succeed. This decision to act seems to fill the gap left by inaction in other aspects of life. It's as though mind doesn't always care about the nature of the goal, but only that a goal has been defined and aimed toward. Nofap permits one to strive toward something and to feel success in doing so - as though finally unstuck from the mud.

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But then a strange thing happens. It's as though the bubble of success becomes too transparent and in glimpsing the real stagnant state of our lives, we hit 'reset', and relapse, and oh ****! I screwed up! The antidote to this of course, is an even more sincere commitment to succeeding the next time round, and there's a temporary feeling of striving as we re-commit to the goal and keep this going until once again the bubble wears thin and *pop!*, we start again ∞.

A loop of illusory striving; a bubble of manufactured goal orientation that never leads anywhere productive because it never deals with life beyond the bubble - the life where things remain in stasis & the life which, when glimpsed - causes us to throw ourselves off the horse so that we might feel good about getting back into the saddle again. Round & round we go.

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SauRoNZA

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I feel like there is a first post missing and this is a response to that post.

Only thing that makes sense.
 

Rouxenator

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I don't see the point. A decade ago when I had no life this used to be the highlight of the day, I would not say I was addicted but I would say the outlook was "sad". Since then I made a few live changes and now I don't even give it a thought. I think if you are concerned about fap/nofap then you might have to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.
 

saor

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I think if you are concerned about fap/nofap then you might have to re-evaluate the priorities in your life.
Yeah, that's maybe the gist of it. The Nofap reddit & forums are very much like most addiction sites: People 'relapsing' and re-committing themselves to it over and over. I also noticed this in myself - of being stuck in a loop of fooling myself into thinking I was achieving something but in reality it was delusion and distraction from the real things that needed change.

Anyway. There's something interesting about the way nofap works as a kind of goal-simulation game. Was trying to get at the interesting part / what made it tick with this thread, and maybe get some perspective on the other ways in which we distract ourselves from the main quest of life with all these silly side quests.
 

Rouxenator

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#15
Before I turned 30 I set myself a nice goal. To be 80kg like I was when I turned 18 in high school. It was a lot of work since I started at 120kg, but I got there. That to me is a much more worthwhile side quest that seeing how long I cna go without choking the chicken. But hey, different strokes for different folks.
 
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