The UCT - Cecil John Rhodes Statue Thread

[ProfA]

People are free to vote who they want, but it doesn't prevent me from passing judgement on them.

Then you are also stupid because of whomever you vote for.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

No one is calling for stuff he owned or donated to be erased. His good legacy is appreciated, but there is no need to glorify such a horrible person by having statues in his honour.
You will notice the dailymaverick echo'd those sentiments

Which particular DM article? There have been multiple articles on this subject.

Don't you think it is hugely hypocritical to accept money or land from a person who you hate/dislike intensely? Like this clown

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opin...space-by-removing-rhodes-statue/#.VQKeGeGddfY

#PayBackTheRhodesMoney

 

[FoXtroT]

Remember, when you are 21, drink all night and attend BA lectures for a living then you know everything.

I know him, I was at res with him.

 

[Nerfherder]

I know him, I was at res with him.

Am I wrong?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I know him, I was at res with him.

Joshua Nott? Is he as much of a tool as he comes across?

Strikes me as a brown-noser hoping for a cushy patronage position.

 

[JStrike]

Which particular DM article? There have been multiple articles on this subject.

Don't you think it is hugely hypocritical to accept money or land from a person who you hate/dislike intensely? Like this clown

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opin...space-by-removing-rhodes-statue/#.VQKeGeGddfY

#PayBackTheRhodesMoney

The ever brilliant Richard Poplack - http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opin...ape-of-things-they-were-they-are-and-to-come/

And no to your other question

 

[FoXtroT]

Joshua Nott? Is he as much of a tool as he comes across?

Strikes me as a brown-noser hoping for a cushy patronage position.

He studies law and his parents come from an ANC background which is why he is also an ANC member. He does love his politics and he can be a bit impossible to talk to when arguing about such things. But when not going on about politics he is a decent oke although he does sometimes rub people the wrong way.

 

[JStrike]

He studies law and his parents come from an ANC background which is why he is also an ANC member. He does love his politics and he can be a bit impossible to talk to when arguing about such things. But when not going on about politics he is a decent oke although he does sometimes rub people the wrong way.

Don't go around ruining people's preconceived notions that he must be a BA student (Which for stupid people is an insult) and must be a tool

 

[Nerfherder]

No one is calling for stuff he owned or donated to be erased. His good legacy is appreciated, but there is no need to glorify such a horrible person by having statues in his honour.
You will notice the dailymaverick echo'd those sentiments

Perhaps we don't need to glorify anyone, just remember them.

 

[Nerfherder]

Don't go around ruining people's preconceived notions that he must be a BA student (Which for stupid people is an insult) and must be a tool

Depends if he is LLB or BA law....

Nothing wrong with a BA but don't try argue with someone who is still studying something like that.... they have all the answers.

 

[BandwidthAddict]

So all these kingdoms were made up of people in loincloths and mud huts? Fascinating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kingdoms_in_pre-colonial_Africa

And how do those kingdoms relate to the so called disadvantaged black people of South Africa?

Are you trying to claim that Shaka and the other Bantu people in South Africa did not wear loin cloths and lived in mud huts?

 

[BandwidthAddict]

Bro...

The pyramids where built by the Nubians so don't wonder too hard about what the "blacks" where up to, they kept busy

So you believe that the egyptians were black?

 

[FoXtroT]

Depends if he is LLB or BA law....

Nothing wrong with a BA but don't try argue with someone who is still studying something like that.... they have all the answers.

He did B.SocSc as his undergrad and is now doing LLB.

I do agree with the BA generalisation though, many of the people involved in these types of ideological arguments/movements are typically studying a BA. They tend to make these really fantastical arguments or wishes but they simply have no grounding in reality, they don't see past their politics and philosophy textbook to notice that other disciplines are more knowledgeable about the realities of the world.

 

[ProfA]

Perhaps we don't need to glorify anyone, just remember them.

Is a statue needed to remember him?

 

[JStrike]

Depends if he is LLB or BA law....

Nothing wrong with a BA but don't try argue with someone who is still studying something like that.... they have all the answers.

haha very true. But stupid they are not

 

[Nerfherder]

Is a statue needed to remember him?

Perhaps it is... After all we learn from history. A lot of the tributes to Rhodes were donated by members of the public, what right do we have to tear them down

 

[JStrike]

So you believe that the egyptians were black?

You clearly need to read a bit closer

 

[ProfA]

Perhaps it is... After all we learn from history. A lot of the tributes to Rhodes were donated by members of the public, what right do we have to tear them down

So wait....people like Sadam Husain, Adolf Hitler, etc etc should also not have their statues torn down and buildings renamed which were named after them right?

 

[Nerfherder]

haha very true. But stupid they are not

Never said that... Just uninitiated in to the real world.

 

[Nerfherder]

So wait....people like Sadam Husain, Adolf Hitler, etc etc should also not have their statues torn down and buildings renamed which were named after them right?

Very different people. But people like Hitler are still being discussed, so their legacy lives on for different reasons.

I'm not in favor of renaming things, it smacks of revisionist history