There goes International again !!

Wireless2 · Sep 25, 2004

Whats going on these days ??

We loose international everyfew days

nocilah · Sep 26, 2004

funny thing is when in came back on again I was getting speeds of 40KB/s on a MyWIreless 128.
How does that happen with BW management is what I want to know?

myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.

loosecannon · Sep 26, 2004

this is expected as many downloads timeout and you can get what you paying for while others get none

the redundancy of the network is appaling as a sate broadband carrier (TV 6Mhz Per Channel)

Karnaugh · Sep 26, 2004

This *is* an IS fault, they have been suffering major DoS attacks on their international links for the past few days.

- Colin Alston
colin@slipgate.za.net

"Getting traffic shaping right is easy and can be summed up in one word: Dont." -- George Barnett

Saul · Sep 26, 2004

Its amazing, they dont even have the decency to announce this stuff on the noticeboard anymore.

Typical Sentech, they implement a feature that looks good but then sucks after a short while.

Karnaugh · Sep 26, 2004

What notice board?

It isnt a Sentech fault cluetron.

- Colin Alston
colin@slipgate.za.net

"Getting traffic shaping right is easy and can be summed up in one word: Dont." -- George Barnett

nocilah · Sep 26, 2004

but international was like down for 5 minutes

myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.

arf9999 · Sep 26, 2004

It *is* a Sentech fault...I don't have a contract with IS. If Sentech had redundency in their international peering, nobody would notice the degraded service. They don't, we do, and they are to blame.

1 day and counting..

Karnaugh · Sep 27, 2004

International was down for over 7 hours one night.

How is this a Sentech fault? They are a customer of IS, who have been having major problems out of their control. Where exactly do you expect Sentech to get this redundancy from? Telkom? Or will you just bitch about it being satallite latency?

- Colin Alston
colin@slipgate.za.net

"Getting traffic shaping right is easy and can be summed up in one word: Dont." -- George Barnett

nonroker · Sep 27, 2004

It's clear that some people have NO IDEA what bandwidth costs. There's no business case that will justify two intl bandwidth providers at the price we're paying.

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256k ... BAH..more like 25.6k
FSCK YOU Sentech!! [

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loosecannon · Sep 27, 2004

that is where you are wrong you split your feed to 2 providers UUNET/IS/Saix and useing the nice features of BGP you can balance the links nicely yes it does cost more but it is not C*n it is a sliding scale besides we are been milked for money for a advertised always on solution i want always on and that means there business plan must take that into account or not sell it always on fast reliable

nocilah · Sep 27, 2004

I agree...

I couldnt care less whose problem it is on Sentechs side. Be it IS or the monkey that keeps the wheel turning...
Sure things will go down and break once in a while...But as a customer to Sentech... it is Sentechs fault.

Basicly you guys are saying if Sentech's relationship with IS goes bad and IS pulls the plug on Sentech and
we sit with no INT BW for a month it's IS's fault?

I dont care how much BW costs... I dont care how Sentech get it too me and quite frankly I couldnt give a rats ass
about the problems ... etc etc ect

I only pay Sentech... hence the fault falls squarely on their idiotic and incompetent heads.

Be realistic and stop defending Sentech's failure to set up a decent network.

myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.

nonroker · Sep 27, 2004

IS is supposed to provide the redundancy, after all..it's one of their services.
BGP, you're assuming Sentech's got an AS number? I bet you they don't know what AS even stands for.

What about people with dialup's that's using a IS VISP ? They had EXACTLY the same issues. My 942.co.za ISDN dialup didn't have any intl connectivity either.

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256k ... BAH..more like 25.6k
FSCK YOU Sentech!! [

!]

nocilah · Sep 27, 2004

so then our International speeds is also IS's fault.. ?

myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.

keithr · Sep 27, 2004

looks like from last night int b/w has been cut by 20% in the 128k pkg - Sitting solidly at around 10.x kB/s - has the shaping been changed again?

nonroker · Sep 27, 2004

no, Sentech buys intl bandwidth from IS. If I remember correctly the ratio used to be 1:3..so for every 3K local they'll get 1K intl, unless they pay a premium for 1:1 ratio. IS can make recommendations, but if Sentech's not willing to fork out the cash, IS implementall their recommendations.

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256k ... BAH..more like 25.6k
FSCK YOU Sentech!! [

!]

Karnaugh · Sep 27, 2004

How do redundant links help when they will just be overloaded as well anyway?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">that is where you are wrong you split your feed to 2 providers UUNET/IS/Saix and useing the nice features of BGP you can balance the links nicely yes it does cost more<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Clearly you dont comprehend just how much more that would cost, or the peering arangements that have to be made.

- Colin Alston
colin@slipgate.za.net

"Getting traffic shaping right is easy and can be summed up in one word: Dont." -- George Barnett

saintm · Sep 28, 2004

What would make all the difference in the world, is if Sentech would just post a note on their noticeboard when problems are being experienced. Simple as that. Even better if they make the announcement while the problem is being experienced and not several hours later like they are prone to do

I have been running tests hourly for the past week or so in terms of speeds if anyone would be interested to see the graphs. What has amazed me the most is that my upload speeds are almost always substantially higher than my download speeds. The other is the time when speeds are best too - generally about 5:45 in the morning.

On the 128k package (Menlo Park tower), I have seen upload speeds peak at about 130k, downloads peak at about 120k that early in the morning. Other than that - mostly between 30k and 80k (talking to an international site here!).

Since I went through NoWire and bought my modem, I don't want to cancel the contract since I will be seriously out of pocket. So I sent through an upgrade request (to 256k), but with certain conditions attached about a fair expectation of speed, what will be done if that is not consistently met and so on. More than a week later - no reply even though "they are working on it."

Isn't that just sad? I am willing to give them more money, but they can't get themselves into gear!

Menlo Park Tower / 128k / NoWire.co.za

tasty · Sep 28, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by saintm
 
On the 128k package (Menlo Park tower), I have seen upload speeds peak at about 130k, downloads peak at about 120k that early in the morning. Other than that - mostly between 30k and 80k (talking to an international site here!).
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130k upstream? 130Kbits/ps?
Are you running with a high-gain antenna?

“If we believe absurdities, we shall commit atrocities.”
- Voltaire

loosecannon · Sep 28, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Karnaugh
 How do redundant links help when they will just be overloaded as well anyway?

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">that is where you are wrong you split your feed to 2 providers UUNET/IS/Saix and useing the nice features of BGP you can balance the links nicely yes it does cost more<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Clearly you dont comprehend just how much more that would cost, or the peering arangements that have to be made.
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yes it is more expensive trust me i know but to provide a good service it is required the peering arangements are mostly PR/Admin and once in place it is great ...

i dont care what it costs quite frankly i want a service and im paying for it and i demand it ...

its all about been worlds class and stiking out above the others ...
if they want to attract a quality user supply a quality product

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