'There is no black person who can be racist'

[Moosedrool]

I said it's a question of semantics based on what your definition of racism is. Hence the question mark and the "if".

His definition of racism is not the same as yours.
The HRC's definition is not the same as yours.
That is one thing everyone can agree on.

Even by that neo "progressive" crazy definition how is it that black people can't consider themselves superior while white people can?

Just that idea alone suggest the people making these claims are thinking black people are morally superior If they truly believe that garbage.

Do you see the dumbassery there?

 

[Vorastra]

No one's falling for it @skimread.

That shet might work in the US with lefties (trans debate being the main culprit) but "fluid" definitions are not going to get you far here. If even @TysonRoux is not buying that shet, I can tell you now that the rest of us aren't going to either.

This is why no one can have even the simplest of conversations in good faith when there are people who have to start a debate on what simple words, that we all understand, actually mean...

 

[Spliffcat]

Oh the feelies.
Racist twats are around black or white
Fekkem all.

 

[Ponderer]

What is racism?

You seem to be confused as to what "racism" is.
It's not that difficult - it's quite simple.

Racism is a generalization based on nothing other than ethnicity.
It can be understood as "judging a book by its cover".

Also.
There is no difference between xenophobia and racism.
It's the same thing.
Racism is not a "black" vs "white" thing.

 

[ForceFate]

You seem to be confused as to what "racism" is.
It's not that difficult - it's quite simple.

Racism is a generalization based on nothing other than ethnicity.
It can be understood as "judging a book by its cover".

Also.
There is no difference between xenophobia and racism.
It's the same thing.
Racism is not a "black" vs "white" thing.

Xenophobia is generalised to hatred of people from outside the borders whereas racism is race specific. A simplified example...

Xenophobe: I don't want Ugandans in my country.
Racist: I don't want black people in my country.

 

[rietrot]

Xenophobia is generalised to hatred of people from outside the borders whereas racism is race specific. A simplified example...

Xenophobe: I don't want Ugandans in my country.
Racist: I don't want black people in my country.

It's exactly the same thing. It is basically tribalism/identity politics. It just slightly varies as to who is included in the tribe and then blaming the other people for you problems when you are to lazy to compete or to incompetent.

Most racist people are also xenophobic and visa versa. They will always blame someone else for their misery.

This is clearly seen in communist countries. The list of the oppressors that they kill just gets longer and longer.

 

[STS]

It's ironic, but many (black people) believe that it is true

Maybe he is a forumite and thinks racism is JuSt wOrDs

 

[Aghori]

"Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another." Wikipedia

I personally find this to be true. Different groups of humans posess different behavioural traits. As the age-old adage goes, "Crows don't fly with swans". The same can be said about humans.

 

[The Trutherizer]

Do people really need to come out in public to say the world is in fact a sphere as opposed to being flat? Some comments are so stupid as to not be worthy of a response...

Well in other news. Many non-racist white people had to bend the knee recently in support of BLM or risk severe backlash which could even cost them their livelihoods.

 

[etienne_marais]

"Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another." Wikipedia

I personally find this to be true. Different groups of humans posess different behavioural traits. As the age-old adage goes, "Crows don't fly with swans". The same can be said about humans.

Thing is, especially Britain and America have shown how people of different backgrounds can be integrated. On the larger scale I do however believe there are still differences between groups as only a handful truly integrates. The poignant point is however that it does not seem to be racial, i.e. genetic. Roughly cultural differences are however still often maintained among racial groups as people are slow to adopt to different cultures (and to a lesser extent differences among groups of the same race are maintained as well).

 

[Cray]

Well in other news. Many non-racist white people had to bend the knee recently in support of BLM or risk severe backlash which could even cost them their livelihoods.

Not sure what this has to do with what I was saying but I think that is BS too... my post from a more relevant thread.

Forcing people to kneel kinda defeats the object of a voluntary show of support

 

[Ponderer]

Xenophobia is generalised to hatred of people from outside the borders whereas racism is race specific. A simplified example...

Xenophobe: I don't want Ugandans in my country.
Racist: I don't want black people in my country.

No - it's the same thing.
A dozen eggs is the same as 12 eggs.

 

[Cray]

No - it's the same thing.
A dozen eggs is the same as 12 eggs.

Xenophobia can apply to any foreigners, not just people of a different racial grop... E.G the attitudes towards Polish people by some in the UK. They are all Caucasians (mostly) but there have been definite issues with UK natives directing hatred towards Poles who have come to the UK as part of the EU freedom of movement.

 

[Deadmanza]

Who gives a fack what Floyd Shitvambu has to say anyway?

 

[skimread]

You seem to be confused as to what "racism" is.
It's not that difficult - it's quite simple.

Racism is a generalization based on nothing other than ethnicity.
It can be understood as "judging a book by its cover".

Also.
There is no difference between xenophobia and racism.
It's the same thing.
Racism is not a "black" vs "white" thing.

Take your definition to the HRC. Lose your case there. Take that definition to court charging a black man with racism. Lose your case and take them to the constitutional court. lose your case there
If people educated in definitions, who have to apply definitions according to the law can't see blacks as racist then surely you must admit there has been a semantic shift.
At what point will you agree a semantic shift has happened?


With the world becoming more and more mixed you are not getting pure race people. You will find it hard to find someone in the US that is pure race one way or the other. How does the definition of ethnicity change based on most people being mixed race in the US? Look at the Kamala Harris that is currently news all the time. Is she black or is she Indian? What about Obama? His mother is white. The world is grey. Not black and white. Identity politics have changed the world. Debating if something is seen as racist will be seen as racist. That is how the definition of the word has changed. Even in South African laws other races like Chinese as well as white women, were included in the term Black. The definition of black was changed to those that have been discriminated against.

Do you not believe in semantic shift? What about the word gay? It changed meaning to the point its original meaning of being happy and merry is not used at all. Like it or not culture and laws change. Words are man-made and change as well.

 

[Big Rat]

No - it's the same thing.
A dozen eggs is the same as 12 eggs.

I have to disagree slightly here.
Both are instances of hating the other person on an irrational level.
A zimbabwean black and a South african black still classifies as an African, hence the same race.
I can be racist by hating Sipho, simply because he is black.
But can i be Racist for hating Swen the Swede? No i cannot, he is the same race as me.

But Sipho can be zenophobic to hate the Zim Brother, because Zimbo comes here, steal his job and his wife and land. Reason to be upset, but irrational to hate all Zimbabweans because of that.
I can be zenophobic to Swen the Swede, because their crappy cars outsells my belowed German cars. But it is irrational to hate all Swedes because of this. Some, of the female persuasion, are quite nice

My humble 2 cents.

 

[LazyLion]

Rubbish, we've had this discussion here many times before, anybody can be racist.

 

[zulucat]

This dumb Telly Tubby... I know I am capable of racism, please don't take that away from me!

 

[Ponderer]

Why is it so difficult to understand that all people are different, and at the same time all the same.
People are not unlike fingerprints in that we all have them, but no two are alike.

The whole racism thing is a load of BS.
It is used control/manipulate/exploit.

 

[rietrot]

This dumb Telly Tubby... I know I am capable of racism, please don't take that away from me!

As a black person you don't have this skill.

The white master race wins again