'There is no black person who can be racist'

[Gnome]

"Black people can't be racist"

99% black people don't want to argue with that statement because either: (or all of these)
1) They believe it
2) The narrative suits them (or allows the person to do all kinds of things that would otherwise be labelled racist or disgusting)
3) They don't care

Of the 1% that remain, they'll be labelled crazy or counter revolutionary.
Given what has just transpired in the US with BLM and the general state of anti-white in this country, it is pointless to even debate that statement.

I hate to bring it back to this, but this is exactly what transpired during the time before the holocaust. There was a global hate for Jews, same but different.

Of course in the US the majority is white so they can't hardly be put into camps and killed.
But Africa is another ball game.

Although I doubt mass killing will transpire here, at the very least mass looting of "white owned" will happen at some point.
Which almost certainly will include some killing and a whole lot righteous BS that will eventually end in tragedy for Africa.

People will look back and call it what it is (racism and ignorance) and there will be a few equivalent people (like neo-nazis) that still believe the right thing was done.

But I don't see how Africa can avoid it at this point. It is just a phase it has to put itself through.

The self-hatred is too strong to take ownership of the true problems that face Africa and white hate is too easy a scapegoat.

The world is moving very quickly and Africa is losing its wealth very quickly due to not being able to adapt.
To make up that loss you need a world war that resets everything or you need to work hard enough to make up for the lost time.
Neither I see happening soon, so good luck Africa. Here is to another 200 years of absolute f@ckery

 

[rambo919]

Uhm.... why is everyone so focussed on the EFF as if they originated this and not the black conciousness movenment?

 

[STS]

/We all agree he is a twat
/We all agree anyone can be racist
/We all agree racism is a real thing

8 pages later, anyway

 

[ForceFate]

[/QUOTE]
The difference in meaning, no matter how subtle, is there.

/We all agree he is a twat
/We all agree anyone can be racist
/We all agree racism is a real thing

8 pages later, anyway

The likes of Ponderer don't want to be seen agreeing with a "communist heathen".

 

[surface]

This reminds me of "We are exceptionally intelligent guys because look at newton & einstein" which is frequently mentioned with pride on this forum under different guises..

 

[grok]

This reminds me of "We are exceptionally intelligent guys because look at newton & einstein" which is frequently mentioned with pride on this forum under different guises..

White people cannot be elitist, our natural privilege acts as a shield to deflect that schit.

 

[skimread]

This reminds me of "We are exceptionally intelligent guys because look at newton & einstein" which is frequently mentioned with pride on this forum under different guises..

Where was Newton mentioned in this thread?
Why invoke Newton? What has old scientists have to do with BLM and the definition of racism?

Is your reference to Newton related to the UCT movement of removing statues of old white men and decolonizing science from an African perspective? The same things that form part of the greater BLM movement currently going on in the US.

The famous Why should we be taught Isaac Newton's theories when he is not African?

First statues. Then scientists and mathematicians. This is the view that a white man has no right to tell a black man how the world works.
Why should students be taught a white man's laws of how the world works? They shouldn't tolerate this. It doesn't matter if he was not a politician. A scientist's race or gender has nothing to do with their theories. Their theories are irrelevant to their race. However, today's society is so toxic that debating, examining or analyzing a point of view, is itself is seen as toxic.

This is what I tried to explain with this current environment of intolerance. Intolerance is not the same as racism. Intolerance says you may not have an opinion, you make not talk, you are not tolerated. Symbols and works created by you are not tolerated. Even science.

Racism and slavery are seeing others as inferior and justifying using them to their benefit based of some type of perceived superiority. You tolerate the person as you make use of them. That is why racism, slavery and discrimination are related.

Intolerance is related to xenophobia. You would expect that South Africa has a history of racism would not accept any forms of racism. Yet you get Xenophobia attacks where even the UN steps in. If racism was so taboo in South Africa then why have nationwide waves of xenophobia where you kill black people? They don't tolerate perceived taking something from you e.g. your jobs or female attention, as was the reasoning used in the SA xenophobic attacks. Then you have so many SA law that excludes whites based on race and NOT based on not a fair metric like wealth. If racism is taboo in South Africa then why have all these race laws that don't take metrics like wealth into consideration? Why are whites excluded from the lowest level jobs like internships at companies?

Racism can be systemic. It can be relative.
Xenophobia cannot be systemic. It is intolerance. it is an absolute.
In societies with racism, the victims of racism don't decline in number usually increase
In societies with intolerance, the victims of intolerance decline with number.


Why is it that members of the forum refuse to accept semantic change or semantic shifts? The evidence is overwhelming.
Is it because the members on the forum are more right leaning where they are attracted to things that cannot change?
I have to be the bearer of bad news but the left is dominating the west, the media, social media and education.
You will have to accept change.

 

[Moosedrool]

I take it this person isn't black then.

 

[SoldierMan]

'There is no black person who can be racist' - Floyd Shivambu. Idiot.

 

[Ponderer]

Where was Newton mentioned in this thread?
Why invoke Newton? What has old scientists have to do with BLM and the definition of racism?

Is your reference to Newton related to the UCT movement of removing statues of old white men and decolonizing science from an African perspective? The same things that form part of the greater BLM movement currently going on in the US.

The famous Why should we be taught Isaac Newton's theories when he is not African?

First statues. Then scientists and mathematicians. This is the view that a white man has no right to tell a black man how the world works.
Why should students be taught a white man's laws of how the world works? They shouldn't tolerate this. It doesn't matter if he was not a politician. A scientist's race or gender has nothing to do with theories.

This is what I tried to explain with this current environment of intolerance. Intolerance is not the same as racism. Intolerance says you may not have an opinion, you make not talk, you are not tolerated. Symbols and works created by you are not tolerated. Even science.

Racism and slavery are seeing others as inferior and justifying using them to their benefit based of some type of perceived superiority. You tolerate the person as you make use of them. Either by them working for you for less wages. That is why racism, slavery and discrimination are related.

Intolerance is related to xenophobia. You would expect that South Africa has a history of racism would not accept any forms of racism. Yet you get Xenophobia attacks where even the UN steps in. If racism was so taboo in South Africa then why have nationwide waves of xenophobia where you kill black people? They don't tolerate perceived taking something from you e.g. your jobs or female attention, as was the reasoning used in the SA xenophobic attacks. Then you have so many SA law that excludes whites based on race and NOT based on not a fair metric like wealth. If racism is taboo in South Africa then why have all these race laws that don't take metrics like wealth into consideration? Why are whites excluded from the lowest level jobs like internships at companies?

Racism can be systemic. It can be relative.
Xenophobia cannot be systemic. It is intolerance. it is an absolute.
In societies with racism, the victims of racism don't decline in number usually increase
In societies with intolerance, the victims of intolerance decline with number.


Why is it that members of the forum refuse to accept semantic change or semantic shifts? The evidence is overwhelming.
Is it because the members on the forum are more right leaning where they are attracted to things that cannot change?
I have to be the bearer of bad news but the left is dominating the west, the media, social media and education.
You will have to accept change.

A fine display of Dunning Kruger.
Good job.

 

[SoldierMan]

I take it this person isn't black then.

I take it then the black people in SA who killed all those foreigners a while back were acting out of "compassion" for their fellow black and not savagery
Man, some people can talk a load of bull, and what is even more amazing is the host who nods and agrees with him.

 

[skimread]

A fine display of Dunning Kruger.
Good job.

This is what I hate about this forum. People throwing around pseudo intellectual out of context garbage one liners when their previous posts point they are clueless and of such poor quality that their contribution is seen as throwing around out of context slurs such as white supremist, Nazi, you think you are Newton, Dunning Kruger etc. I can play that game in my responses to you but it is pointless, taht is why I chose not to.

The whole BLM movement and the topic of blacks cannot be racist is so divisive that one thing people can agree on is that this is going to cause much turmoil, uncertainty and violence in the coming years. I think we should discuss it and not the typical left or right way that is making the world so toxic.

 

[skimread]

I take it then the black people in SA who killed all those foreigners a while back were acting out of "compassion" for their fellow black and not savagery
Man, some people can talk a load of bull, and what is even more amazing is the host who nods and agrees with him.

What was the result of this? He was fired for making an anti-semetic statement, not for making racist statements against whites. No white person opened a case against Nick Cannon for racism. If white people offended decide to boycott that network it would make no difference as that are so few. Are white people chanting at his house? Is he in fear of being in public and revenge attacks? No

Surely this is proof that in today's world by law, democratic majority, consequence that blacks cannot be racist towards whites? Just racist towards Jews. Why has the definition of racist changed and undergone a semantic shift?

lets examine that. What is anti-Semitism? It includes stereotypically characteristics that is irrelevant to the colour of their skin. E.g. greedy and money hoarding. However, that is seen as racist as in it you see yourself as not as having those characteristics. By making those statements you see yourself as superior for having higher morals and not being so greedy.

Do you see how the statement how greedy Jewish are, is seen as racist because it is based off stereotypes of a race?

 

[Ponderer]

This is what I hate about this forum. People throwing around pseudo intellectual out of context garbage one liners
when their previous posts point they are clueless and of such poor quality that their contribution is seen as throwing around out of context slurs such as white supremist, Nazi, you think you are Newton, Dunning Kruger etc. I can play that game in my responses to you but it is pointless, taht is why I chose not to.

The whole BLM movement and the topic of blacks cannot be racist is so divisive that one thing people can agree on is that this is going to cause much turmoil, uncertainty and violence in the coming years. I think we should discuss it and not the typical left or right way that is making the world so toxic.

You can stop demonstrating the DK now.
You have shown how clevaaa you are.
No need to continue.

 

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You can stop demonstrating the DK now.
You have shown how clevaaa you are.
No need to continue.

Please stop.

 

[CaptainOblivious]

This is what I hate about this forum. People throwing around pseudo intellectual out of context garbage one liners when their previous posts point they are clueless and of such poor quality that their contribution is seen as throwing around out of context slurs such as white supremist, Nazi, you think you are Newton, Dunning Kruger etc. I can play that game in my responses to you but it is pointless, taht is why I chose not to.

The whole BLM movement and the topic of blacks cannot be racist is so divisive that one thing people can agree on is that this is going to cause much turmoil, uncertainty and violence in the coming years. I think we should discuss it and not the typical left or right way that is making the world so toxic.

The problem here is that the "typical left" way today runs interference for this sort of behaviour, and this has to be called, out otherwise what is there to discuss?

 

[Ponderer]

Please stop.

Dude.
Just because you are confused by BS does not mean that everybody is confused by it.
Some of us have common sense.
You tried to hard to make yourself look clever.

 

[skimread]

Dude.
Just because you are confused by BS does not mean that everybody is confused by it.
Some of us have common sense.
You tried to hard to make yourself look clever.

Your contribution to this thread is zero. Your best debating strategy is to act like a troll and then label anyone else as saying they think they are smarter than you. I clearly said previously in the thread that philosophizing is dead. And it is. Trolls like you prove it and the current world is swarming of people like you. Any debate must be seen as extremes and absolutes. The very thing the left is doing to kill any discussion.

The current climate of divisiveness must be like heaven to you. So much opportunity to throw your slurs around anonymously. You have your absolute intolerant opinion and anything in opposition must not be tolerated.

 

[Cray]

Your contribution to this thread is zero. Your best debating strategy is to act like a troll and then label anyone else as saying they think they are smarter than you. I clearly said previously in the thread that philosophizing is dead. And it is. Trolls like you prove it and the current world is swarming of people like you. Any debate must be seen as extremes and absolutes. The very thing the left is doing to kill any discussion.

The current climate of divisiveness must be like heaven to you. So much opportunity to throw your slurs around anonymously. You have your absolute intolerant opinion and anything in opposition must not be tolerated.

Classic Ponderer, and he resorts back to his "common sense" schtick every time someone makes an argument he can't refute.

 

[skimread]

The problem here is that the "typical left" way today runs interference for this sort of behaviour, and this has to be called, out otherwise what is there to discuss?

The problem is that hypocrites in power are still in power. Pointing it out won't help. In the end whether you like it or not the ones who win are right because they write the history books. You are not smart for being the canary in the coal mine. You are dead.

Someone quoted Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn earlier in the thread. By the way things are going, his comments on society will become more and more relevant.