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keru

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Here is an article from an Indian newspaper.
The current rate for an 256 ADSL connection is R 230 and the government is looking at bringing that down to R60 per month.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnu...ne=India~to~unveil~broadband~policy~next~week

India to unveil broadband policy next week

Bridging distances - One year old Ronak is fed cake by his mother at a Reliance Web World store in Kolkata, while his grandfather Amarjit Singh located a couple of thousand kilometers away at a similar digital retail store in Pune watches the bi rthday celebration. Photo: Parth Sanyal.

New Delhi, Aug 6. (PTI): Government on Thursday said it will unveil the new Broadband policy next week which is expected to usher in the next telecom revolution.

"My Ministry is going to unveil the new broadband policy next week. It is going to be a customer-friendly broadband policy", Union Communication and IT Minister Dayanidhi Maran said at the launch of MTNL's certifying authority service.

The policy is being unveiled after a series of interactions between TRAI and Department of Telecom, Maran said, adding that it would bring a new revolution in the communication sector.

Asked whether the DoT had accepted TRAI's recommendation with regard to unbundling of last mile link of MTNL and BSNL, Maran said "wait for just seven days everything will be in front of you."

When contacted TRAI Chairman Pradip Baijal told PTI that "TRAI has sent the final set recommendations incorporating DoT's view points to its (TRAI's) previous recommendations."

TRAI had recommended fuller use of BSNL's copper network and a number of tax sops, including exemption from payment of service tax for ISPs for five years, among the measures to increase the use of internet and broadband in India.

The telecom regulator had identified pricing, inadequate fiscal policies and lack of access to consumers in the last mile as major hurdles preventing the growth of internet and broadband in India.

"India can have 20 million broadband and 40 million internet subscribers by 2010, which translate into penetration levels of 1.7 per cent and 3.4 per cent respectively," TRAI had estimated.

TRAI, however, had favoured 75 per cent cut in high-speed internet rates saying prices of high-speed internet of 256 kbps should be brought down to about Rs 400 per month from existing Rs 1,600 to boost the broadband.

It said duties levied on inputs and finished product used in providing broadband and internet services should be reduced to the level equivalent to mobile phones.

TRAI said that ISPs should be exempt from payment of service tax, which is eight per cent of the value of service provided, for the next five years.
 

playkiller no.2

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So what they are saying is EVEN INDIA BEATS THE PANTS OFF SOUTH AFRICA.

Nice Telkom Nice!!

R60 for 256k adsl---------&gt;faints
 

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what would be intresting and clear the debate up completely is get the pricing from every country that offers ADSL in dollar terms put it to gether in a nice chart wrap it in semtex and drop it off at telskum towers in crunt road ...

prehaps that way they will get the message.
 

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Even better - put up a huge bill board right outside their HQ and and hand out flyers at departments, to let the people become aware of how bad it actually is.
 

HillBilly

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Read somewhere on this Forum that Telkom would prefer to be compared to developing countries rather than 1st world countries; well they got what they asked for and still Telkom comes out losing (sorry Telkom customers) come out losing...
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by loosecannon</i>
<br />what would be intresting and clear the debate up completely is get the pricing from every country that offers ADSL in dollar terms put it to gether in a nice chart wrap it in semtex and drop it off at telskum towers in crunt road ...

prehaps that way they will get the message.
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This is exactly what we must do. Well, maybe not every country in the world, but a very comprehensive list of countries, especially the smaller ones. I wanted to do this personally but I simply haven't found the time. If a bunch of us got together and researched a list of countries for their broadband offerings, we'd quickly get together a document we could use to prove to ICASA, Telkom and the rest of the world that we are, in no uncertain terms, being ripped off. And then I say we go to the police and lay a formal charge against Telkom for theft. [:(!]


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cant we skip the research and just drop some semtex off at telkom towers??

what is very ironic is that we are been compared to india more and more not hungary/poland/argintina ... the call centre model in india they want to try here will fail with current pricing
 

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Guys ... Mad at hellkom is already setting up a worldwide ADSL cost comparison: http://www.hellkom.co.za/research/ADSLcostcompare.htm

Email all your links to him please so he can build up the database.

We need all our anti-telkom info at one easy to locate place!

We can then refer journos, politicos etc to the link!

[}:)]



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Does anyone know a country that is more expensive than SA? Just was wondering?
 

neobyte

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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/03/28/uk_has_most_expensive_dsl/

Made we want to cry....
 

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by neobyte</i>
<br />http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/03/28/uk_has_most_expensive_dsl/

Made we want to cry....
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We have about 10k? Wow thats only a qaurter of the UK numbers. Why the fsck are there so few ADSL users in the UK? Its farkin cheap enough there [:(!]

Hey pomms ... count your blessings aholes [:D]

We are about $140 pm ... twice as expensive as the most expensive country they listed :)

Edit: Thats from 2001 ... the UK numbers must have increased and prices dropped over the last three years.

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<u>Israel ADSL</u> (Not sure if you would classify Israel as third world.)

They have a few packages - here are two:

<u>Wow Package</u>

Downstream up to <b>500</b> Kbps
Upstream up to <b>64</b> Kbps

NIS 99.95 or <font color="red">R134.72</font id="red">

<u>WOW Extreme package </u>

Downstream up to <b>2500</b> Kbps
Upstream up to <b>128</b> Kbps

NIS 429.95 or <font color="red">R579.53</font id="red">

*shakes head*

http://www.bezeq.co.il/Cultures/en-US/WOW/TracksandPrices/TracksandPrices/Prices.htm?LinkType=posting

MAD, you might like to look into adding this to Hellkom


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dorris

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I was actually going to post about that, I was talking to an Israeli that came down here to work for a year or 2, he arrived last week.
He was asking me about the interenet options, he wants to Skype back home, He was bouncing off the walls when he heard the situation over here, he said : " With a bit of shopping around in Israel, one expects to pay just over 60Nis for an adsl connection (+- R90).
( The best reaction was when he heard about a 3GB monthly cap) Next best was when I told him about the other alternative, with local latency of 150ms (sentech)
This got me thinking, Israel was declared a state after the war ... in 1948 , sounds similiar doesn't it.
Anyway, they did something right with what they had, as I don't think they are considered developing anymore, probably not 3rd world either.
Even though they in depression at the moment, i'll take R90 over our R800 + R 240 + ...+ R240
 

TheVoice

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hArTh: Wathc yourself, there's a Brit on these boards (guess who)...

Anyway, that report is severely outdated, UK boradband has plummeted in price since then and there are far, far more ISPs and users than there was before. That said, UK is still one of the more expensive and slower places to have boradband, other nearby countries (except France probably) have much faster, much cheaper boradband options.

At the time of that article SA didn't even have ADSL, and I'm not really sure what relevance a 2001 article has today...
 

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Just thought it was strange how the comparison of the most expensive ADSL providers in 2001 makes Telkom look expensive still. For a first world technology, Telkom has managed to go back in time!
 

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Malaysia:
see: http://www.expat.com.my/streamyx/packages.htm
384K/128K FOR 88MYR = 140ZAR /MO
1MYR=1.6ZAR
 
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