This is the average salary in South Africa right now

[BusinessTech]

This is the average salary in South Africa right now

Stats SA has published its latest quarterly employment data, for the third quarter of 2018 ending September.

 

[msmoorad]

what a load of CRAP!
the vast majority of South Africans dont even earn R5000 pm and here u talk of over R20k pm....what the F have u been smoking?

 

[supersunbird]

what a load of CRAP!
the vast majority of South Africans dont even earn R5000 pm and here u talk of over R20k pm....what the F have u been smoking?

Those who get really big salaries and all those government employees skew it obviously

 

[PhireSide]

The average salary for South Africa’s workforce as at August 2018 is R20,860 a month

Glad to see they included Eskom staff in the survey

 

[John Tempus]

LOL

I think they these stats-out-of-our-asses guys took the average salary of employed individuals in the top 10% of the population.

I can't believe they actually published R20k a month average income for South Africans. If you account for every citizen it is likely closer to R2500 a month if even.

 

[supersunbird]

LOL

I think they these stats-out-of-our-asses guys took the average salary of employed individuals in the top 10% of the population.

I can't believe they actually published R20k a month average income for South Africans. If you account for every citizen it is likely closer to R2500 a month if even.

Why would they include the underaged and the unemployed?

 

[C4Cat]

LOL

I think they these stats-out-of-our-asses guys took the average salary of employed individuals in the top 10% of the population.

I can't believe they actually published R20k a month average income for South Africans. If you account for every citizen it is likely closer to R2500 a month if even.

If you have 10 people earning R2500 a month and 1 person earning R1000000 then the average is R93181 a month

 

[John Tempus]

If you have 10 people earning R2500 a month and 1 person earning R1000000 then the average is R93181 a month

Oh really ? And if you had only 1 person employed in the country who earned R1million a month then I guess it is valid to state the average salary in South Africa is R1million a month, cool.

The point I am making is that these stats have absolutely zero basis in the real world and even spending money on these reports is a net loss to South Africa ie. tax payer money spend on reports that have no basis in reality.

We have an ever increasing unemployment rate ie. the people who retain their jobs become fewer and fewer and those who do retain their jobs slowly gain higher incomes likely because they operate their own businesses and they have to succeed.

Fewer people employed = fewer people with income = fewer people to average out for the average monthly salary = inflated numbers that have no worth behind them.

Why would they include the underaged and the unemployed?

I think I just answered this question above. The fact these reports ignore unemployment is exactly why these reports simply lack any credibility.

 

[newby_investor]

It's ambiguous as to whether they're talking about median or mean.

These kinds of things usually only refer to workers in formal, non-agricultural employment.

 

[C4Cat]

Oh really ? And if you had only 1 person employed in the country who earned R1million a month then I guess it is valid to state the average salary in South Africa is R1million a month, cool.

The point I am making is that these stats have absolutely zero basis in the real world and even spending money on these reports is a net loss to South Africa ie. tax payer money spend on reports that have no basis in reality.

We have an ever increasing unemployment rate ie. the people who retain their jobs become fewer and fewer and those who do retain their jobs slowly gain higher incomes likely because they operate their own businesses and they have to succeed.

Fewer people employed = fewer people with income = fewer people to average out to come to the average monthly salary = inflated numbers that have no worth behind them.



I think I just answered this question above. The fact these reports ignore unemployment is exactly why these reports simply lack any credibility.

That's how mean averages work, anyone with a basic primary school knowledge of statistcs and maths would understand that. When the average increases it indicates more money is being paid in salaries - it doesn't indicate who is getting the money. If you want the median or mode 'average', instead of the mean, then you need to look at a different statistic, that's all

 

[3WA]

The fact these reports ignore unemployment is exactly why these reports simply lack any credibility.

There's other reports about the unemployed.

 

[cguy]

Oh really ? And if you had only 1 person employed in the country who earned R1million a month then I guess it is valid to state the average salary in South Africa is R1million a month, cool.

Yes and yes. It’s not the concept that’s absurd, it’s your example.

The point I am making is that these stats have absolutely zero basis in the real world and even spending money on these reports is a net loss to South Africa ie. tax payer money spend on reports that have no basis in reality.

We have an ever increasing unemployment rate ie. the people who retain their jobs become fewer and fewer and those who do retain their jobs slowly gain higher incomes likely because they operate their own businesses and they have to succeed.

Fewer people employed = fewer people with income = fewer people to average out for the average monthly salary = inflated numbers that have no worth behind them.



I think I just answered this question above. The fact these reports ignore unemployment is exactly why these reports simply lack any credibility.

Unemployment is a separate concern, pushing these into the same number hides information.

 

[cguy]

It's ambiguous as to whether they're talking about median or mean.

It’s the mean. The Stats SA article spends most of its time talking about the changes in the total salaries (billions) rather than per-capita, so I assume they take the total earnings estimate and divide it by the employer population estimate (numbers wouldn’t make sense otherwise). I am sure the median would be much lower.

 

[msmoorad]

so why would they choose to do a report about average salaries when they KNOW it will NOT give an honest reflection of how things are?

 

[ToxicBunny]

so why would they choose to do a report about average salaries when they KNOW it will NOT give an honest reflection of how things are?

Because it looks way way better than the median...

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

Comedy Hour reading these articles, how stoned are you mileniall snowflake journalists that come up with these statistics???? LOL, I needed that good laugh now after work. Now let me go pour myself a stiff expensive drink

 

[John Tempus]

Comedy Hour reading these articles, how stoned are you mileniall snowflake journalists that come up with these statistics???? LOL, I needed that good laugh now after work. Now let me go pour myself a stiff expensive drink

The sad part is that these articles and results come from tax payer funding into Stats SA that produce numbers that are meaningless.

These misleading stats published would enrage more South Africans who most definitely don't earn close to that apparently average income and with parties such as the EFF these BS stats will add more fuel to their current burning dungpile flame.

To make matters worse I would love to know out of what ******* they pulled this figure.

"Year on year, employment figures were up by 0.2%.."

BS, we have a steady decline of unemployment in this country. I would have a good laugh if I had their source material to validate their 0.2% year on year employment gains.

 

[satanboy]

clickbait

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

The sad part is that these articles and results come from tax payer funding into Stats SA that produce numbers that are meaningless.

These misleading stats published would enrage more South Africans who most definitely don't earn close to that apparently average income and with parties such as the EFF these BS stats will add more fuel to their current burning dungpile flame.

To make matters worse I would love to know out of what ******* they pulled this figure.

"Year on year, employment figures were up by 0.2%.."

BS, we have a steady decline of unemployment in this country. I would have a good laugh if I had their source material to validate their 0.2% year on year employment gains.

John, you gotta keep emotions aside. Not easy I agree, but you have to

 

[supersunbird]

The sad part is that these articles and results come from tax payer funding into Stats SA that produce numbers that are meaningless.

These misleading stats published would enrage more South Africans who most definitely don't earn close to that apparently average income and with parties such as the EFF these BS stats will add more fuel to their current burning dungpile flame.

To make matters worse I would love to know out of what ******* they pulled this figure.

"Year on year, employment figures were up by 0.2%.."

BS, we have a steady decline of unemployment in this country. I would have a good laugh if I had their source material to validate their 0.2% year on year employment gains.

Employed people amount can go up, even as the unemployment figure increases. Think things through, don't be an ANC voter...