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s0lar

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So much for elon's claim of wanting to promote free speech, if it's going to cost $8/m. He's already said subscribers will have their tweets promoted, meaning the unverified users will be drowned out. He's probably counting on the right wing nazis to all jump at the chance of subscribing so that their drivel gets promoted and drowns out all other conversations.
Your source?

Context matters relating to search priority in verified accounts.

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Paati Sooth

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Your source?

Context matters relating to search priority in verified accounts.

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Yes, the source was the tweet that you posted. The one where he says that verified users tweets will be prioritised in replies, mentions and search. Which implies that those tweets will be more visible than tweets from unverified users. Which implies that tweets from unverified users will be drowned out.
Free speech only costs $8 per month!
 

s0lar

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Yes, the source was the tweet that you posted. The one where he says that verified users tweets will be prioritised in replies, mentions and search. Which implies that those tweets will be more visible than tweets from unverified users. Which implies that tweets from unverified users will be drowned out.
Free speech only costs $8 per month!
At least it will work toward silencing bots and the associated misinformation that comes with botnets. Free speech is Uber important, less disinformation from botnets with an agenda even more so.

Never mind if it is free you are the product.
 

RedViking

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So much for elon's claim of wanting to promote free speech, if it's going to cost $8/m. He's already said subscribers will have their tweets promoted, meaning the unverified users will be drowned out. He's probably counting on the right wing nazis to all jump at the chance of subscribing so that their drivel gets promoted and drowns out all other conversations.
Goodness, how do you people sleep at night....
 

RedViking

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Yes, the source was the tweet that you posted. The one where he says that verified users tweets will be prioritised in replies, mentions and search. Which implies that those tweets will be more visible than tweets from unverified users. Which implies that tweets from unverified users will be drowned out.
Free speech only costs $8 per month!
Be afraid, be very afraid.

There will now hopefully be a lot more quality content on Twitter than the crap and bot posts that it is now.

You should be excited!!
 

RedViking

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At least it will work toward silencing bots and the associated misinformation that comes with botnets. Free speech is Uber important, less disinformation from botnets with an agenda even more so.

Never mind if it is free you are the product.
Well currently tweets are drowned out by trolls, bots and other crap.

Twitter needs this.
 

R13...

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At least it will work toward silencing bots and the associated misinformation that comes with botnets. Free speech is Uber important, less disinformation from botnets with an agenda even more so.

Never mind if it is free you are the product.
So bots and their founders just have to pay $8 to ensure their narrative dominates?
 

Paati Sooth

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Be afraid, be very afraid.

There will now hopefully be a lot more quality content on Twitter than the crap and bot posts that it is now.

You should be excited!!
Only if you think that the quality content is only coming from those who are willing to spend $8/m.
 

RedViking

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Only if you think that the quality content is only coming from those who are willing to spend $8/m.
It will eventually balance out. The future is bright for the blue bird. With new ownershop comes an uncomfortable start, but long term will be best for everyone.
 

Paati Sooth

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It will eventually balance out. The future is bright for the blue bird. With new ownershop comes an uncomfortable start, but long term will be best for everyone.
You're right, things are in quite a state of turmoil at the moment. So let's see in a years time how things are going. I still disagree with you though - it's clear that Elon has no idea what to do with Twitter now that he owns it (because he never intended to buy it in the first place). Even his investor Binance thinks that 90% of his ideas are going to flop.
One would really think that Binance would have been privy to Elon's plans for once he took over before deciding to invest $500m, and one would wonder if Binance would invest $500m expecting that 90% of the plans would fail... this seems to imply that Binance didn't know what Elon's plans were either, which again implies that Elon is making things up as he goes along, and there is no actual plan in place.
But let's see how things are looking in a year...
 

TheMightyQuinn

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Yes, the source was the tweet that you posted. The one where he says that verified users tweets will be prioritised in replies, mentions and search. Which implies that those tweets will be more visible than tweets from unverified users. Which implies that tweets from unverified users will be drowned out.
Free speech only costs $8 per month!
Narcissism mixed with false equivalence...what a combo.

If 10 000 blue ticks respond to a tweet...do you think NO-ONE/EVERYONE isn't being drowned out anyway??

90% of tweets are lost in a blizzard of bullshit anyway...

This blue tick kak whining is just about people that are desperate for self-actualization.
 

Pegasus

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I’m sure he is. Money doesn’t make you smart as is evidenced by Trump, but I’m pretty sure Elon is pretty clever.

Regarding his purchase of Twitter though, it looks like he’s making it up as he goes along so in that case, no.
You missed this weeks Twitter Stand-ups and the weekly catch-up again.
 

LazyLion

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Be afraid, be very afraid.

There will now hopefully be a lot more quality content on Twitter than the crap and bot posts that it is now.

You should be excited!!
lol... you mean all the misinformation in the run up to the elections.
 

PaulMurkin

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So much for elon's claim of wanting to promote free speech, if it's going to cost $8/m. He's already said subscribers will have their tweets promoted, meaning the unverified users will be drowned out. He's probably counting on the right wing nazis to all jump at the chance of subscribing so that their drivel gets promoted and drowns out all other conversations.
Having to pay for access is a good thing. It will keep the riff-raff out because the riff-raff are either too poor or too cheapskate to pay
 

s0lar

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So bots and their founders just have to pay $8 to ensure their narrative dominates?
Double edged sword as explained earlier. It’s a value proposition. Boiling it down its no different to say the Spotify's premium model.

Let not get our knickers in a knot until we have detail as to how the paid "narrative" will potentially "dominate". Premature doom and gloom without sufficient context.

Elon has it in for automated accounts, I expect this to be the primary focus in terms of search priority. As bots will always be there, the less relevant they are the better for all. Bots aren't created for any good other than single sided agenda.
 

Paati Sooth

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Narcissism mixed with false equivalence...what a combo.

If 10 000 blue ticks respond to a tweet...do you think NO-ONE/EVERYONE isn't being drowned out anyway??

90% of tweets are lost in a blizzard of bullshit anyway...

This blue tick kak whining is just about people that are desperate for self-actualization.

Having to pay for access is a good thing. It will keep the riff-raff out because the riff-raff are either too poor or too cheapskate to pay

Except that goes directly against Elon's supposed goal of creating a "town hall" for the greater good of humanity.
It doesn't matter if 10,000 blue ticks are responding, if even 100 non-blue-tick messages get drowned out. And it doesn't matter if you consider those 100 users to be riff-raff or cheapskates and therefore unworthy of having their voices heard.

A town hall is meant to a place where everyone can voice their opinions and everyone else can contribute to the discussion. Prioritising certain voices over others is contradictory to that idea. Hence, Elon's idea of a "town hall" promoting "free speech" can only work if everyone on the platform pays (which will never happen, not because people are cheapskates but because many people have more important things to do with their minimum-wage salaries), or the voices of the people who are paying aren't favoured in any way, otherwise everyone on the platform isn't on equal footing, and there is no "town hall" in effect.

Of course its his $44billion and his platform now, so he can do whatever he likes with it and people are free to leave if they don't like his decisions... but he shouldn't be deluded into thinking that he's creating a town hall in that case.

You can argue that the riff-raff who can't afford $8 a month on a twitter account don't deserve to be leeching of the platform for free, and that's also a valid viewpoint, but then you also shouldn't delude yourself that Elon is creating some sort of free speech town hall, because he's not. He's then created a service for people who can afford it, not for the greater good of humanity.
 

sdrawk

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Be afraid, be very afraid.

There will now hopefully be a lot more quality content on Twitter than the crap and bot posts that it is now.

You should be excited!!
I'm not so sure about that.

If a spam farm pays $8 a month for all their accounts, what then?

If a fake celebrity account holder pays for their account and makes false claims with the blue check, what then?

It seems flawed from the onset, and I think that's what the entire userbase is worried about.
 
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