Three smartphones under R5,000

wizardofid said:
The push back as you called it, with regards to your opinion that you feel the CPU in these devices aren't good enough because it will slow down. I was pointing out the CPU isn't the problem the end user is the problem. It isn't symbian os, it is a fully functioning OS that collects garbage as much as a desktop windows PC does. A phone has finite resources, and you suggested adding a better cpu will fix the problem, I pointed out it is just masking the problem in the end.

There is a point of diminishing returns, and to be honest you don't need a deca core CPU, it is all the adware and bloatware companies shove onto their devices that is a problem and improper use of their devices in general that leads to the most problems user face.

Utterly ridiculous, throwing more memory and processing power without addressing the underling problem, recommended min ram for android in 2024 is 8gig ? TF When did android become such a bloated piece of shyte that makes windows or chrome look tame with regards to memory usage............
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Well I prefer to just use my device rather than to have to "manage it" all the time. That's why I say each to their own
 
wizardofid said:
min ram for android in 2024 is 8gig ? TF When did android become such a bloated piece of shyte that makes windows or chrome look tame with regards to memory usage............
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I think iPhone are going to do 8GB too now because it limited the features that can be added going forward.

I mean you could have bought a new iPhone 6 months ago with the most advanced & fastest SoC known to mankind with updates for 10 years … and then AI is launched and you can’t get it because RAM limitations?
 
Dolby said:
I think iPhone are going to do 8GB too now because it limited the features that can be added going forward.

I mean you could have bought a new iPhone 6 months ago with the most advanced & fastest SoC known to mankind with updates for 10 years … and then generative AI is launched and you can’t get it because RAM limitations?
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tiftfy.
 
I found this - and it's weird that Apple have has these NPU chips, been using machine learning for years and then didn't even bother to adding extra RAM to the iPhone 15?

To use Apple Intelligence, you need an iPhone 15 Pro or iPhone 15 Pro Max. A regular iPhone 15 won’t do, meaning a mobile well under a year old is, at least in this specific sense, obsolete.

This may be the crux of why recent iPhones don't support Apple Intelligence even though they have as much AI and machine learning power as a MacBook that does support it. According to the Geekbench benchmarking tool, an iPhone 14 actually has a more powerful NPU AI chipset than an M1 MacBook.

Apple introduced the Apple ANE (Apple Neural Engine) in 2017, seen in the iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, and iPhone X. It’s an NPU. It was needed back then, years before AI was as much of a buzzword as it is today, because Apple has actually used forms of AI and machine learning in iOS for ages.
 
Sorry to hijack however I am clueless in the below:
Ladies and Gents and pronoun idiots some advice please:
I have a staff member who wants a new phone and is considering an Honor X6A please the good and bad ....or good alternatives.
Thanks
 
backstreetboy said:
Yes the Pixel 7 Pro is not getting Gemini Nano even though it has 8gb of RAM. Same with the S23 Ultra missing out on a lot of AI stuff even though it has 8gb or RAM.
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Ah - I thought we were talking about the iPhone .

You keep changing & squirming & defelcting ... it's really hard to keep up with you because you're so inconsisant in what you're saying a you so badly want to show that Apple is perfect. It's sad that you hsaven't been able to have a normal chat in like 2 years :(
 
Dolby said:
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ree reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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tiftfy
Lol even on the Pixel 8 with 8gb of RAM it's not enabled by default and you have to go into developer settings to enable it.
1) Go to Developer Settings
2) Search for AICore Settings and press it
3) Activate 'Enable on-device GenAI Features
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wizardofid said:
recommended min ram for android in 2024 is 8gig ? TF When did android become such a bloated piece of shyte
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Dolby said:
I think iPhone are going to do 8GB too now because it limited the features that can be added going forward.
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backstreetboy said:
lol
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Dolby said:
Low RAM limits features?
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backstreetboy said:
lol
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Dolby said:
Is this wrong?
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backstreetboy said:
lol
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I'm not really understanding ?
 
@Dolby
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Apple Explains iPhone 15 Pro Requirement for Apple Intelligence

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Giannandrea: "So these models, when you run them at run times, it's called inference, and the inference of large language models is incredibly computationally expensive. And so it's a combination of bandwidth in the device, it's the size of the Apple Neural Engine, it's the oomph in the device to actually do these models fast enough to be useful. You could, in theory, run these models on a very old device, but it would be so slow that it would not be useful.

Gruber: "So it's not a scheme to sell new iPhones?"

Joswiak: "No, not at all. Otherwise, we would have been smart enough just to do our most recent iPads and Macs, too, wouldn't we?"
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Yes 2gb RAM is really going to give it that oomph.
 
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