TikTok crackdown gathers steam in US

[Cosmik Debris]

Pentagon awards multibillion-dollar Joint Warfighting Cloud Capability (JWCC) contract to Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Oracle.

Does that make Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Oracle militry contractors and should countries be wary of the US-DoD influence on them?

No. We should worry about TikTok and Huawei.

The US DoD is paying for their military software product. When the software is free, you're the product.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Deathcamps like Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib?

Just to be clear, you fine with "don't be evil" Google, Amazon, Microsoft and Oracle being tarnished by association with DoD famous for atrocities in Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, WMD invasion or Iraq, covert operations like Barrel Roll where 260 million bombs were dropped on innocent Laos...

Ooooh! not pro China, just anti USA. Care to balance the books and mention some Chinese and communist atrocities?

And state the number of victims killed at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Graihb? Also state the punishments meted out in China and communist countries to perpetrators and the punishment meted out in the USA to perpetrators seeing you're into a whataboutism blame game.

 

[system32]

Ooooh! not pro China, just anti USA. Care to balance the books and mention some Chinese and communist atrocities?

And state the number of victims killed at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Graihb? Also state the punishments meted out in China and communist countries to perpetrators and the punishment meted out in the USA to perpetrators seeing you're into a whataboutism blame game.

According to http://necrometrics.com/
12+ million dead in US direct & proxy wars post WW2 - mostly civilians
1950-1953 - Korean war: 3-4 million dead
1961–1975 - Vietnamese and Indochina: 5.5 million dead
2001–2021 - Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Sudan - 4+ million dead

 

[Cosmik Debris]

According to http://necrometrics.com/
12+ million dead in US direct & proxy wars post WW2 - mostly civilians
1950-1953 - Korean war: 3-4 million dead
1961–1975 - Vietnamese and Indochina: 5.5 million dead
2001–2021 - Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Sudan - 4+ million dead

Which part of this request, that you highlighted, didn't you understand:

And state the number of victims killed at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Graihb?

Now tell me how many of those casualties you posted the USA was responsible for?

 

[Galactica]

Huh?
Not following...

Here's what data TikTok collects from its users

Some have called for Gen Z’s favourite app TikTok to be banned from phones in America over fears about the data it accesses.Federal Communications Commission (FCC) commissioner, Brendan Carr, has issued a warning to tech companies, urging them to remove TikTok from US app stores.It comes as...

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The app can determine your location, the device you're using, your IP address, search history, your message content and what content you're watching and for how long.
The app also has access to your device's clipboard including text, images and video.
Carr wrote: “TikTok is not just another video app. That’s the sheep’s clothing. It harvests swaths of sensitive data that new reports show are being accessed in Beijing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1541899558006837248

Do American apps not do that?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Do American apps not do that?

Maybe, but they don't send the data to a country that requires social credits to exist and has imperialistic ambitions.

 

[Galactica]

Maybe, but they don't send the data to a country that requires social credits to exist and has imperialistic ambitions.

Does America not have imperialistic ambitions? They have certainly been the most aggressive power abroad in the modern age.

 

[noxibox]

You're welcome to read up on all the exploits, you can even discuss it online, that's the critical difference, you won't get thrown in jail

But you could certainly face harassment by the state. There is a long history of this in the US.

Do American apps not do that?

They do. The hullabaloo about the app being Chinese is just a distraction. The real threat is any business or government collecting this data no matter where they're based.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Does America not have imperialistic ambitions? They have certainly been the most aggressive power abroad in the modern age.

America is not an occupying power of any country. Russia is. State where the USA has been the aggressor?

 

[Galactica]

America is not an occupying power of any country. Russia is.

They lay waste and move on

 

[Galactica]

They do. The hullabaloo about the app being Chinese is just a distraction. The real threat is any business or government collecting this data no matter where they're based.

Thank you.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

They lay waste and move on

Only the USA? Weren't they accompanied by 59 other coalition countries in Afghanistan legalised by the UN? Now tell me about these illegal Russian invasions since 1991:

Georgian Civil War 1992
War in Abkhazia 1992
Transnistria war 1992
East Prigorodny Conflict 1992
Tajikistani Civil War 1992
First Chechen War 1994
War of Dagestan 1999
Second Chechen War 1999
Russo-Georgian War 2008
Insurgency in the North Caucasus 2009
Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-present
Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War 2015-present
Central African Republic Civil War 2018-present

 

[system32]

Huh?
Not following...

Here's what data TikTok collects from its users

Some have called for Gen Z’s favourite app TikTok to be banned from phones in America over fears about the data it accesses.Federal Communications Commission (FCC) commissioner, Brendan Carr, has issued a warning to tech companies, urging them to remove TikTok from US app stores.It comes as...

www.indy100.com

The app can determine your location, the device you're using, your IP address, search history, your message content and what content you're watching and for how long.
The app also has access to your device's clipboard including text, images and video.
Carr wrote: “TikTok is not just another video app. That’s the sheep’s clothing. It harvests swaths of sensitive data that new reports show are being accessed in Beijing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1541899558006837248

Chris Roberts on LinkedIn: #data #digital #iot #socialmedia #content #tiktok #privacy #infosec… | 596 comments

TikTok ! It’s terrible, it should be banned, we should annex it from the home of the free, land of the brave, and slightly overmedicated. OR is it? IS it… | 596 comments on LinkedIn

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Tiktok is clearly designed to 1) bypass provider security 2) exfiltrate your data. Make no mistake, those are its primary aims...

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Sounds just like/works like/same issues as Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Instagram, snapchat or any social media app.
Prove me wrong.

 

[system32]

Which part of this request, that you highlighted, didn't you understand:

I ignored your limited request.

Now tell me how many of those casualties you posted the USA was responsible for?

All of of the deaths was due to US wars.
eg. If US MSM had not made up WMD lies and attached Iraq, no one in Iraq would have died.
If US MSM had not faked the second Gulf of Tonkin incident millions would not have died.
If US MSM had not made up Libya mass rape claims using Viagra, no Libya's would be dead at NATO (mostly US) hands.
etc.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I ignored your limited request.

Evidently. Would the truth embarrass you?

All of of the deaths was due to US wars.
eg. If US MSM had not made up WMD lies and attached Iraq, no one in Iraq would have died.
If US MSM had not faked the second Gulf of Tonkin incident millions would not have died.

Simplistic. The US just went in because they wanted to kill? Care to elaborate on the reasons they went in or would that be too embarrassing for your narrative?

If US MSM had not made up Libya mass rape claims using Viagra, no Libya's would be dead at NATO (mostly US) hands.
etc.

Are you speaking of Operation Unified Protector? It was requested by the UN and Russia even voted yes. There were no boots on the ground at all:

Resolution 2009 (2011) Adopted by the Security Council at its 6620th meeting, on 16 September 2011:

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/pdf_2011_09/20110927_110916-UNSCR-2009.pdf

More reading for you:

NATO and Libya : Operation Unified Protector

www.nato.int

 

[system32]

Evidently. Would the truth embarrass you?

Simplistic. The US just went in because they wanted to kill? Care to elaborate on the reasons they went in or would that be too embarrassing for your narrative?

Are you speaking of Operation Unified Protector? It was requested by the UN and Russia even voted yes. There were no boots on the ground at all:

Resolution 2009 (2011) Adopted by the Security Council at its 6620th meeting, on 16 September 2011:

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/pdf_2011_09/20110927_110916-UNSCR-2009.pdf

More reading for you:

NATO and Libya : Operation Unified Protector

www.nato.int

How much more simple can this be, these US wars were based on fake US propaganda.
When US makes a statement, other countries listen and often follow.

Explain again how:

• fake WMD justified the deaths of millions?
• fake second Gulf of Tonkin incident justified killing millions?
• fake Libya mass rape claims justified bombing a country to the stone age?

Quoting NATO archives to justify NATO's bombing of Libya is a circular argument.
NATO "rule 5" is a defensive alliance, not sure why it attached Libya.
Despite what NATO and you say history has shown that there is no justification for what was done to Libya.

"Initially, actors in the global community championed the intervention as a success, citing the unprecedented multilateral effort to protect civilians in their demand for human rights and autonomy. However, as the situation in Libya deteriorated, opinions shifted drastically and today many condemn Operation Unified Protector as an abject failure." - https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/handle/1794/25764

 

[Cosmik Debris]

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How much more simple can this be, these US wars were based on fake US propaganda.
When US makes a statement, other countries listen and often follow.

Explain again how:

• fake WMD justified the deaths of millions?
• fake second Gulf of Tonkin incident justified killing millions?
• fake Libya mass rape claims justified bombing a country to the stone age?

Quoting NATO archives to justify NATO's bombing of Libya is a circular argument.
NATO "rule 5" is a defensive alliance, not sure why it attached Libya.
Despite what NATO and you say history has shown that there is no justification for what was done to Libya.

"Initially, actors in the global community championed the intervention as a success, citing the unprecedented multilateral effort to protect civilians in their demand for human rights and autonomy. However, as the situation in Libya deteriorated, opinions shifted drastically and today many condemn Operation Unified Protector as an abject failure." - https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/handle/1794/25764

So, you base your statements on your own opinions and ignore all the facts? Substantiate your claims then.

 

[system32]

So, you base your statements on your own opinions and ignore all the facts? Substantiate your claims then.

Fake WMD, fake second Gulf of Tonkin incident, fake Libya mass rape claims are not opinions - these are established facts.

What facts do you have that justify WMD invasion of Iraq?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Fake WMD, fake second Gulf of Tonkin incident, fake Libya mass rape claims are not opinions - these are established facts.

What facts do you have that justify WMD invasion of Iraq?

How could NATO troops rape Libyans when they didn't have feet on the ground in Libya?

The other two have been discussed ad nauseum on this platform. I'm not going there again. But you do your USA bad communists good thing while using US IP tech. If they're so bad, why are you supporting them by using their tech?

 

[system32]

How could NATO troops rape Libyans when they didn't have feet on the ground in Libya?

The other two have been discussed ad nauseum on this platform. I'm not going there again. But you do your USA bad communists good thing while using US IP tech. If they're so bad, why are you supporting them by using their tech?

I never said NATO raped anyone.

Gaddafi ‘supplies troops with Viagra to encourage mass rape’, claims US diplomat​

See https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/29/diplomat-gaddafi-troops-viagra-mass-rape
This fake allegation was used to bomb Libya to the stone age.

Also just because something's been discussed ad nauseum does not justify it.