Time for a second state-owned power utility to compete with Eskom - Ramaphosa

[wingnut771]

I actually don't think it's such a bad idea, provided it's split in half and no additional staff are procured. After all, two smaller independent units are often easier to manage.

Also, if one part is Zuma and the other Rama, there might actually be some competition between them.

It cannot be worse that the current state of affairs.

You'll just have two camps that don't know what lightening is. What do you think is going to happen?

 

[Kola-CT]

I actually don't think it's such a bad idea, provided it's split in half and no additional staff are procured. After all, two smaller independent units are often easier to manage.

Also, if one part is Zuma and the other Rama, there might actually be some competition between them.

It cannot be worse that the current state of affairs.

Careful, they might see this as a challenge...

 

[ShakeSpeer]

I really hope the loadshedding times differ, so then I can subscribe to both and never have loadshedding

 

[borro]

None, for the price of two.

 

[Gravedigger]

Well, we are waiting...
Where is the ANC government come up with millions of watts, sharing the load with Eskom?

 

[Ch3mZ_ZA]

Had to check my calendar because this seems like a April fools announcement

 

[Agent_Smith]

 

[Agent_Smith]

In case we missed it the first two times I suppose...

ANC wants a ‘second Eskom’ to be introduced in South Africa: report

It's a stupid idea. Was Coal Daddy Gwede's suggestion... Not maintaining and improving Eskom, but just creating another Eskom. They can't even keep one Eskom working correctly, how the **** are they going to manage it with two?

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Did I miss one...?

 

[Guest 290922]

Can we please name it Eishkom?

Eksdom

 

[Gudnews]

I sense a capitalist slow walking an idea. The end goal is private power as an alternative.

 

[wingnut771]

In case we missed it the first two times I suppose...

ANC wants a ‘second Eskom’ to be introduced in South Africa: report

It's a stupid idea. Was Coal Daddy Gwede's suggestion... Not maintaining and improving Eskom, but just creating another Eskom. They can't even keep one Eskom working correctly, how the **** are they going to manage it with two?

mybroadband.co.za

BREAKING NEWS LIVE | ANC considers second state-owned power utility to compete with Eskom - Ramaphosa

https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/breaking-news-live-all-the-latest-news-alerts-from-across-south-africa-with-news24-20220601 BREAKING NEWS LIVE | ANC considers second state-owned power utility to compete with Eskom - Ramaphosa ANC considers second state-owned power utility to...

mybroadband.co.za

Did I miss one...?

I think this topic deserves 3 threads.

 

[mypetcow]

Or maybe we should just introduce an energy exchange like in europe and then all parties be it ESKOM or private power producers can offer their power at various times of the day and municipalities and industry can bid for said power? Are we not in a market-based economy and not in a communist society?
I think we should maybe look less towards China for inspiration on this one

 

[wingnut771]

Or maybe we should just introduce an energy exchange like in europe and then all parties be it ESKOM or private power producers can offer their power at various times of the day and municipalities and industry can bid for said power? Are we not in a market-based economy and not in a communist society?
I think we should maybe look less towards China for inspiration on this one

Try and get that through their heads.

 

[Shadowchaser1]

LMAO. The best plan ever. Welcome to communism. CR is a huge admirer of China & does a lot of ass kissing.

 

[PsyWulf]

Got to here

He added that he agreed with energy minister Gwede Mantashe’s idea that a second state-owned power utility could solve the issue.

“That is why when comrade Gwede [Mantashe] flighted the idea of ‘why not a second one which can be owned by the government?’, I said that’s not a bad idea.”

Yeaaaah nah

 

[Nike7]

LMAO. The best plan ever. Welcome to communism. CR is a huge admirer of China & does a lot of ass kissing.

China has lifted an incredible amount of people out of poverty. I would hate to live there, but they get a few things right.

Edit: no, I don’t think a second power company can result in anything other than an even worse disaster than we have now.

 

[PsyWulf]

but they get a few things right.

They have rolling blackouts because the state manages the electricity prices,but the cost of coal exceeds that managed price,so the companies just shut down/loadshed rather
Then we have the huge bankruns currently
An almost singular dependency on the sale and resale of land(housing) to fund much of the economy in a giant ponzi (hello Evergrande disaster)
The Not Great Firewall and Grand Cannon ****you internet weaponry

Yeah China's awesomeeeee

 

[Paulsie]

Because one company has been operating the electricity industry for the past 100 years, some of the problems have been that their power stations are more that 50 years old. I was saying to comrade Gwede the other day that when we started organising workers in the mining and electricity sectors in 1992, some of those power stations were already 20 to 30 years old, and that was 40 years ago. So, imagine those same stations now still pumping electricity.

Cyryl's own words. Which means three things:

1/ apartheid built power stations still work (more or less) after 50 years
2/ you and your comrades have done fokol since 1994
3/ just like your comrade Jacob, you cannot count (1992 + your 40 years ago = 2032)

 

[Nike7]

They have rolling blackouts because the state manages the electricity prices,but the cost of coal exceeds that managed price,so the companies just shut down/loadshed rather
Then we have the huge bankruns currently
An almost singular dependency on the sale and resale of land(housing) to fund much of the economy in a giant ponzi (hello Evergrande disaster)
The Not Great Firewall and Grand Cannon ****you internet weaponry

Yeah China's awesomeeeee

They also produce half the trinkets in your house and your standard of living wouldn’t be anywhere near what it is right now without them.

 

[PsyWulf]

They also produce half the trinkets in your house and your standard of living wouldn’t be anywhere near what it is right now without them.

Didn't say they don't have successes,just that they are not the shining beacon of success and wealth that you imply - especially not for their workers

How successful has China’s poverty eradication drive been?

China claimed last year it had met a long-trumpeted target of lifting all its people out of extreme poverty. But what exactly has been achieved and how sustainable is it?

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Beijing’s official statistics are often approached with scepticism, and experts say poverty figures do not tell the whole story.

There have been hundreds of thousands of corruption cases linked to poverty work, said University of Western Ontario economics professor Terry Sicular.

That includes local officials who falsified data by classifying friends and family as poor to receive funding.
China’s official poverty line is also low when compared to average household income, Sicular added.

The World Bank recommends the higher benchmark of $5.50 a day to gauge poverty in upper-middle income economies.
Raiser estimates that around 13 per cent of China’s population still lives on an income below that level.