Tito Mboweni refuses to scrap e-tolls: 'You pay for bread, and you'll pay for roads'

[Foxhound5366]

So funny when people in SA still think the government in SA has the best interests of the country at heart. The ANC clearly has ensured that their government is beyond reproach at this point with the numerous laws and policies in place to protect their greedy membership. They just love to spend the tax money on their one common goal to enrich as many black comrades as possible. It's done in the spirit of Ubuntu they say.

When you're talking about the ANC, you do understand that Tito Mboweni is a member of the ANC right? And you understand that he's put limits on government salaries and has advocated salary cuts, and there's also a raft of other measures at restricting government expenses?

How does that fit into your convenient stereotypes?

 

[j4ck455]

When you're talking about the ANC, you do understand that Tito Mboweni is a member of the ANC right? And you understand that he's put limits on government salaries and has advocated salary cuts, and there's also a raft of other measures at restricting government expenses?

How does that fit into your convenient stereotypes?

Get back to us when Tit oMboweni halves existing government salaries and cancels perks.

 

[VooDooC]

Nope, e-toll sounds way too much like restriction on freedom of movement.

People would be more than happy to pay for the upkeep of roads IF we could see where the money was going, but currently we are paying taxes, property tax, fuel tax, VAT, sin tax, and who knows what else and there is no improvement on anything. Everything is falling apart, we pay for everything yet Billions go missing and for some strange reason that also is our fault?

So no, I'll pay for e-toll once I see an improvement on our road infrastructure (which is frankly atrocious in most places)

 

[Foxhound5366]

Get back to us when Tit oMboweni halves existing government salaries and cancels perks.

This sounds promising doesn't it? https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gove...onomy-class-and-buy-their-own-cellphones.html

At the very least, it's not quite "They just love to spend the tax money on their one common goal to enrich as many black comrades as possible." For shame, Ryansr, casual racism is so 1982. Come join us in enlightenment, where "they" don't exist.

 

[DreamKing]

said that already, CR and tito are no good ......

unfortunately, idiots still think CR is messiah.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

don’t lie about being law abiding?

wouldn't dream of it ... depends who's asking though

I can categorically state I've paid every cent I've ever owed to SANRAL, which is basically nothing seeing as I don't live in Gauteng. Had a rental car up there once, those come with the tag and costs for e-tolls included, but then again my employer was paying for it, not me.

 

[Foxhound5366]

Nope, e-toll sounds way too much like restriction on freedom of movement.

People would be more than happy to pay for the upkeep of roads IF we could see where the money was going, but currently we are paying taxes, property tax, fuel tax, VAT, sin tax, and who knows what else and there is no improvement on anything. Everything is falling apart, we pay for everything yet Billions go missing and for some strange reason that also is our fault?

So no, I'll pay for e-toll once I see an improvement on our road infrastructure (which is frankly atrocious in most places)

You don't see the continuous road maintenance on the eTolled highways, with the big flashing yellow lights and the guys working while traffic is crawling past?

 

[BBSA]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1189588509516029958

 

[DreamKing]

When you're talking about the ANC, you do understand that Tito Mboweni is a member of the ANC right? And you understand that he's put limits on government salaries and has advocated salary cuts, and there's also a raft of other measures at restricting government expenses?

How does that fit into your convenient stereotypes?

do you know how many times anc said something similar for the past ten years?

if they really did that, why they have to keep on promising the same thing for the past decade?

 

[DreamKing]

Get back to us when Tit oMboweni halves existing government salaries and cancels perks.

don't worry, never will happen.

 

[RyanPCMR]

When you're talking about the ANC, you do understand that Tito Mboweni is a member of the ANC right? And you understand that he's put limits on government salaries and has advocated salary cuts, and there's also a raft of other measures at restricting government expenses?

How does that fit into your convenient stereotypes?

You've just proven my point. Met jou klappe voor die ogies word jy dan saggies aan die slaap gesus. Don't fight it.

 

[Jings]

How many non payers actually care if eTolls are scrapped or not? Does it make a difference in their non eToll paying lives?

 

[Johnatan56]

How many non payers actually care if eTolls are scrapped or not? Does it make a difference in their non eToll paying lives?

It sets a precedent, so yes, most non-payers should care.

 

[Jings]

It sets a precedent, so yes, most non-payers should care.

Care enough to pay?

 

[Johnatan56]

Care enough to pay?

Care enough to support that no one pays for double taxation.

 

[JayM]

You don't see the continuous road maintenance on the eTolled highways, with the big flashing yellow lights and the guys working while traffic is crawling past?

Why should these highways, and not others, be tolled? Do you think it's efficient to spend R10bn (most of it with foreign companies) to collect R20bn to build highways?

 

[Sinbad]

Sooooo just to kick the hornets nest a bit, I'll leave this here ... currently I have a princely prepaid balance in my Sanral account, which pays for my eTolls and tollbooth gantries in all kinds of places. It's even started paying for some connected parking garages (I was puzzled by a Netcare hospital's parking boom opening recently as I pulled up for a ticket, until I saw the notification in the Sanral app):
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I think so many eToll protesters would be pretty impressed by how slick the whole eToll app and payment process has become in recent years. But it's ok, sit in the long tollgate queues while I go past in the eToll rapid payment lanes, suits me fine

Fukking collaborator

 

[Foxhound5366]

Why should these highways, and not others, be tolled? Do you think it's efficient to spend R10bn (most of it with foreign companies) to collect R20bn to build highways?

I don't trust OUTA further than I can throw them. They've made a lot of noise and achieved exactly zero. Their maths will be highly speculative.

 

[JayM]

I don't trust OUTA further than I can throw them. They've made a lot of noise and achieved exactly zero. Their maths will be highly speculative.

These are the government's own figures you numpty. And why don't you answer the first question as well? Why should the N1 in JHB be tolled, but not the N2 in Port Elizabeth?

 

[Foxhound5366]

QUOTE="JayM, post: 24354695, member: 11968"]
These are the government's own figures you numpty. And why don't you answer the first question as well? Why should the N1 in JHB be tolled, but not the N2 in Port Elizabeth?
[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure those figures were from OUTA. Being quoted as fact by journalists who don't know any better themselves. So OUTA got miles of free coverage they didn't deserve.